Second city plans bike parking charges

Look as bikers we have to recognise that the govt does not want motorcycles around anymore, just look at the biker test now and the cost.

This is just another step in the direction of making bikes a play thing only, for once you ride a play thing you don't normally park it.

Any sensible person in govt would see that bikes are the solution to congestion, but it is not about congestion it is about making money.

This and every successive govt has no interest in motorcycles easing congestion, in fact the more congestion there is the more money they make off the people needing to use private transport to get to and from their work place.

The price of fuel has gone up, the price of insurence has gone up, all the time you are stuck in a cueue of traffic y are putting money into the pockets of the greedy councils all the while you are stuck in your car searching for parking spaces driving up and down you are putting money into the pockets of councils, and every illegally parked vehicle puts money into their pockets.

Pollution and congestion is of no significants to them so long as  you pay to do both they couldn't give a fig.

The only way this can be changed is by people simpathetic to the cause taking and challenging the councils positions, people that truly want to see real changes for the better taking up the council posts.

The only way to stop this madness is from within, demonstrations will do nothing, but well placed councillors can make a huge difference can turn the tide, can stop the rot.

More bikers need to get politically minded, more bikers need to campaign and become councillors any other method will get us nowhere.

Which is best banging your head against a brick wall over bike charges or becoming a councillor and voting it down, if we don't want these charges we need to get people into the seats of power that will listen to what we say.

To sign the petition, one first has to register on the council website to sign it. Knowing how people are regarding these matters, not many will be arsed to register. The Council tosses know this as well.

If this is true then I hope they are going to use the money to create more parking for motorcycles in the city centre. At present the availability of bike parking in Liverpool is terrible. There are a handful of places you can (legally) park your bike in Liverpool. Most are out of the way or only have a small number of bike spaces squeezed into the corner of a car park. One of the listed bike parking facilities on the Liverpool Council website has literally 2 spaces! And the ones that are in a convenient place and/or have a decent number of spaces, all fill up really early. In fact the only decent places to park in Liverpool is Victoria Street car park which has about 12 spaces and anchor points or near the bottom of Bold street which isn't even official parking. The others are either out of the way, have too few spaces or have nowhere to chain your bike up. There's the NCP near the Adelphi but it's a multi-story with car drivers flying up and down the ramps without looking. And unlike nearby Manchester where you see motorbikes parked on the pavement on every street and in cycle bays, good luck trying that in Liverpool with the traffic warden Nazis. In my experience of working in Liverpool over the years, Liverpool City Council seem to do everything they can to make it difficult for motorcyclists. Which is insane considering how pathetic it is getting in and out of the city during rush hour and how terrible car parking is. So to cut my rant short (sorry!), if they increase bike parking and install more anchor points then I'm all for it. Otherwise it's just an even bigger piss take of bikers than it already is. Now don't get started on the number of scouse birds who have tried to kill me while putting their lipstick on while coasting up to traffic lights when I'm filtering!