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Michael J Carroll


Feb 08

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Manchester bikers slow to show congestion charging views

Greater Manchester council is urging motorcyclists to get on-board its consultation regarding the proposed introduction of a congestion charge in the city. The public is currently being asked for its views on which vehicles should have to pay the charge, and which should get exemptions. A spokeswoman for the council says motorcyclists have been sluggish to argue their case for an exemption...

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Aug 08

Posts: 721

Mjollnir says:

WEll if they are truely introducing a change to cut congestion

then it should be a no brainer that bikes are exempt. If they charge bikes then the reason for the zone is for tax or environmentalists. We all know bikes will filter, but even if they don't it is easy to get 4 bikes in the area of a car, reducing queues by 4, not to mention the reduction in parking spce required.

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Dec 03

Posts: 317

hairyMuppet says:


Drivers in the UK have already paid about 5 times for access to the road network (taxes etc.) any congestion charge is just government sponsored profiteering.

And let's be honest, will Manchester be able to provide a proper PT system? Clean, cheap and punctual? Let's face it, no other council in the UK can, so why should Machester be any different?

If you compare our PT infrastructure to that in the rest of Europe, you will find it seriously lacking in just about every regard.

If, by some miracle, Manchester becomes the first city in the UK to magic up a PT system which works (maybe they'll employ the Swiss to run it?), people will naturally swap to it. It's used PT in parts of Europe and in many cases there is just no real need for your own car. The bus/train/tram is faster, cheaper and easier.

Most of the money being "invested" will be swallowed of by off-balance-sheet PFI shenanigans (like most other Labour pipe-dreams) and the public will be screwed over again, then landed with this new "city centre tax".

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Nov 07

Posts: 540


Why encourage people onto 'public transport'? That would then give the PRIVATE companies who operate our terrible transport system the chance to corner the market and hike prices. I personally would leave people to make their own choices. I would ensure ALL forms of transport were as cheap as possible. I blame Thatcher for EVERYTHING that is wrong with this country today. The woman should be hung!

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Dec 03

Posts: 317

hairyMuppet says:

All cheap?

Naw. Not if you believe the "global warming", "peak oil" etc stories at any rate.

As fuel prices increase, personal transport will be too expensive for many. Public Transport is therefore the logical option. I agree about all the private companies fleecing people and providng a shit service; but that is exactly my point.

Us Brits don't know how to run such a thing.

Decent publica transport means less cars on the road (well, hopefully means...), surely that's got to be a good thing?

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