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James Chambers  says:

Cyclists

I keep reading about these damn cyclists trying to put us off the road. The thing is they have no right- we pay road tax, they don't! If they damage their bike on a pothole they claim from the council as well as us tax payers do, and what right have they got to go through red traffic lights? Police turn...

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Grimbeard

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Grimbeard says:

Correction to Steve H

Steve H, you say "If you read a bit more widely you might know that so called road tax paid by motor vehicle users does not cover even half the cost of maintaining roads or building new ones." Actually, figures from the AA have consistently shown over the 15 years since I first joined them that only approximately 10% of the revenue raised from "Vehicle Licence Duty" is spent on the road network. The rest of our road tax goes into the exchequer's general coffers. Plus there's the insurance tax, fuel tax, VAT on sales, servicing, parts...

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The First Ninja

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Red light dodgers

Not just red light dodging, but undertaking at junctions is always a cyclist top priority, I tend to find the just aim for em approach works really well, if a cyclist is stupid enough to do it, Im more than happy to oblige, had 3 in the last 4 years, still missing 2008's victim though Who knows it could be you! If you wonder how you can tell, just watch out for the wicked glint in my eyes as you fly through the air. Having said all that I aint got a problem with yer average cyclist, just those that run the reds and undertake at junctions.

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polainm

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polainm says:

Tarring with same brush

Many MCN comments and letters totally fail to acknowledge the vast numbers of cyclists who are very experienced road users, have no problem with motorcyclists who are considerate, and share the same problems of killer pillars, very inexperienced drivers, bullying bus drivers, and all other forms of death passed down through traffic and road layout.

The CTC and other cycling campaign groups are right to be concerned about 200kg of motorbike using the bus lane. The real issue here is not the bicycle user, bus or motorbike, but the road layout.

In many places across Europe, traffic has its place on the highway, some places like Assen, Offenburg or Copenhagen, have very high levels of decent cycle infrastructure and bus services. This is well thought out, clear, and works well. Conflicts as we are debating here is rare. Italy and Paris being an exception!

The real villains are the DfT and TfL.

These rants against cyclists need to stop. Motorcyclists ranting about the minority of idiots on bicycles is as bad as drivers ranting about tw*ts on motor bikes. This bigotry is socially corrosive and will get us nowhere. If you really need to point the finger, point it at the Department of Transport. An out of touch collection of bumbling meddlers who have failed the UK for the last 40 years.

If only two-wheeler pressure groups could unite, then the idiot leading DfT might take some notice.

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polainm

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polainm says:

Education required

For crying out loud, will those banging on about insurance and road tax that cyclists don't pay go and learn something. I'm not going to go into detail informing you here, just go and learn more about it, as it makes you look really stupid, and I don't want to be associated with stupid bikers.

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