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Steve Farrell  says:

Cyclists’ barrage of objections to motorcycles in bus lanes

Cycle groups have stirred up a barrage of complaints about motorcycles in bus lanes while motorcyclists themselves aren’t showing support. We risk losing access to London’s bus lanes unless we make our views known to the capital’s transport authority, according to the Motorcycle Industry Association. Complete the TfL survey here Spokesman Craig Carey-Clinch said Transport for London (TfL) had received “very few comments...

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hairyMuppet

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hairyMuppet says:

Not helping

MCN - you're not exactly helping if you don't post a correct link!

Correct link

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Nephilius

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Nephilius says:

correct link

here it is https://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/roadusers/finesandregulations/motorcycleinbuslanes/default.aspx Get filling it out and forward the link to all your friends! Especially level headed cyclists, and also pedestrians, whose opinions will also be counted. The argument in favour of PTWs in bus lanes,from the latter's point of view, is that they can now know where to expect bikers to be

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nibi

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nibi says:

link does not work

this link still does not work   motorcyclenews.com/tflsurvey 

???????

Any one got the correct one 

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hairyMuppet

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hairyMuppet says:

Yes

Read the first comment!

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Nephilius

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Nephilius says:

second front

There's a new petition on the 10 Downing St website drawing attention to the fact that cyclists completely ignore the highway code, failing to stop at red lights, mounting the pavement whenever it suits them, and generally acting with disregard for the needs of other road users. This is a separate issue of course, but the more exposure it gets, the more it devalues the opinions of cyclists. In an ideal world we would of course co-exist with our non-motorised two wheeled chums, as we clearly share some common interests, but sadly the LCC seem determined to push their own agenda, and we have to fight back by any legal means available to us.

Link to petition

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sjtscott

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Link to TFL Survey posted on PH BB forum

I've posted the survey on the bike banter forum of PH, have got a number of bikers to complete this so far.. we just need people to spread the word on this and get our positive responses back to TFL!

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tazreaper

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tazreaper says:

and cyclists say that we aer a nusance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae4UFjHwnzo

 

i was told about this by someone at work and i cant believe what the cyclists get away with at one point they pas a policecar and what does it do nothing

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polainm

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polainm says:

Tarring with same brush

Many MCN comments and letters totally fail to acknowledge the vast numbers of cyclists who are very experienced road users, have no problem with motorcyclists who are considerate, and share the same problems of killer pillars, very inexperienced drivers, bullying bus drivers, and all other forms of death passed down through traffic and road layout.

The CTC, LCC and other cycling campaign groups are right to be concerned about 200kg of motorbike using the bus lane. As they are also concerned about buses running cyclists down. The real issue here is not the bicycle user, bus or motorbike, but the road layout.

In many places across Europe, traffic has its place on the highway, some places like Assen, Offenburg or Copenhagen, have very high levels of decent cycle infrastructure and bus services. This is well thought out, clear, and works well. Conflicts as we are debating here is rare. Italy and Paris being an exception!

The real villains are the DfT and TfL.

These rants against cyclists need to stop. Motorcyclists ranting about the minority of idiots on bicycles is as bad as drivers ranting about tw*ts on motor bikes. This bigotry is socially corrosive and will get us nowhere. If you really need to point the finger, point it at the Department of Transport. An out of touch collection of bumbling meddlers who have failed the UK for the last 40 years.

If only two-wheeler pressure groups could unite, then the idiot leading DfT might take some notice. I expect that TfL is delighted to see bikers and cyclists locked in battle - it takes the focus off their cock-ups.

 

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