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Emigrate to avoid all this stress?

You mean to somewhere like Afghanistan or Zimbabwe?  I wonder how many of our indignant compatriots have actually had their collars felt in this context and, if they have, haven't desrved it?

As for those thrill seekers who can't live without risk, why not join the Army?

Photograph the police?

Funny you should say that, Gazzarossi, but as of yesterday it's illegal. Incredible, eh?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/photographers-protest-uk-antiterror-law-20090217-8a7x.html

New detection routes

The answer is simple to this kind of persecution -   PUBLICISE IT THAT NO BIKER OR CAR DRIVER FRIEND OF BIKERS EVER USES THESE ROUTES STAYS IN HOTEL OR DOES ANY SHOPPING ON THESE ROUTES AND NOT IN NEAREST TOWNS.  Result -  Well first one is quite funny (correction hugely funny!) the people who put the things up find themselves grilled as to why spent loads of money on something that doesn`t have any use `cos no bike ever found on it !!   Second one is local businesses downturn (especially in previously popular biker areas) and local councillors risk losing seats as local Chamber of Commerce at best or at least individual businesses take them to task.  eg Derbyshire Imagine effect on Matlock Bath with no bikers!   Plenty of other nice counties to go to eg Durham where no fixed cameras. North Yorks., friendly parts of same county with nice roads. I live near some of these routes there are lots of parallel roads and B roads to have a burst on instead. Hardly any inconvenience at all to avoid and some better routes nearby if have to travel in an unfriendly county. Never understood obsession with Cat and Fiddle - loads of other ways into Cheshire that are warmer (lower) and just as interesting.  Another nice one if have to use the route would be to travel at 40 mph all way and then two effects -   other drivers would be turned against thing cos bikers actually keeping to limit and again no chance of recouping money or justifying set-up. About time these nimbys were sorted with own medicine.       I don`t advocate bad driving or riding but this obsession with persecution is a different thing.  Nedd

Saftey

I like the constant yes SOME people hit the scenery and SOME people over take at warp speeds but these SOME people are the reason these cameras are being installed. This area has one of the HIGHEST casaulty rates in the country. Did you hear that? more people throw themselves at the scenery here than almost any where else in the country. More people ride these roads at warp speed and die than any where else. Slowing them down WILL make it easier for them to take the next bend, wether it has mud and crap on it or not. Slowing them down will prevent them from panicing , hitting the brakes sitting up and meeting a car coming the other way. I speed everywhere but not when I don't know the roads. As I said in my last post, out of towners try the cat and fiddle and don't make it home. A lot of em.

motorcycle detect system

Just as an extra point; if the police are that concerned about bike safety on certain roads at certain times of the year why not do what the isle of man does and open the roads up to motorcycles only days or motorcycle and sports cars only days that people pay a small fee to rip it up along these roads on specific days of the year not only would the area benifit from such occassions with increased sales and profits but the roads would be made safer with the use of proper medical teams on stand by and every one would have fun.

Either that or the local councils will find themselves out of pocket from all the fires being set on the camaras.

They have a golden opertunity to turn this part of the UK into a real place of interest the farmers could use their fields to make money from storage of the recked bikes and even provide refreshments and break down recovery services.

I see a golden egg with these routes one that needs to be developed but of course that takes comon sense to a situation, turn a negative into a positive and if they still want the camaras sell photos of the action to the public on the meeting days and enforce the laws on none meeting days that way everyone is happy, but to simply target bikes is wrong.