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Video: Yamaha R1 v Honda Fireblade v Suzuki GSX-R1000 v Ducati 1198 v Kawasaki ZX-10R

In this week's MCN we have the 2009 1000s track test where we reveal which litre supersports machine can cut it best on the circuit. Watch the video for some action footage from the track test and Michael Neeves' verdict on how the bikes line up. As you may of predicted, the all-new MotoGP-style R1 outclasses its rivals in MCN's toughest...

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gixercarl

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gixercarl says:

Gsxr

what are they up to the big S lost the plot

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yamarone

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yamarone says:

R1 king

back on top once again,at £9,999  it should be as well.Good work  yamaha carnt wait to get a test..

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McGoes

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McGoes says:

hummmm

R1 is 2 seconds better then ducati 1198s and fireblade?

Lets see what Troy Bayliss as to say about that!!!!

About fireblade ...well it could be, but i think it can do better then that.

Let´s see if honda V4 engine is really a go in 2010 and will see if r1 will win......

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gixercarl

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gixercarl says:

1000

I dont think you will see honda replace the blade wit a V4 they race the blade these days

i just think it will happen

they might bring out a special like they have done down the years to show what they can do ie RC45 SP1 SP2

 

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Project90

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Project90 says:

good review guys love hearing the new R1 at the lauch day but still a Honda fan and dont think 2 secs a lap slower would bother the average joe driving on the lovley 'smooth' uk roads :D

 

 

 

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higgers

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higgers says:

Carping

When are the MCN test team going to get off denile about the cheating ducati? Still we hear 'the 1000cc test with all the Japanese and a Ducati 1098' Hay chaps! one of these bikes is not a 1000cc, so why o why is it in this 1000cc test?

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evilamnesiac

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evilamnesiac says:

Ducati...

I don't think the extra 98cc (or 198cc) is the issue, my big problem with Ducati is that Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki & Kawasaki have all brought out class leading 1000cc sports bike over the last 17 years (starting with the 92 blade), all costing similar amounts. why does MCN harp on about a bike that is 50% more expensive than the competition? for a poorly built, tractor-like posers toy that is consistently one generation behind in performance and 20 years behind in build quality than the competition. Its not a V-twin issue, the SP1/2 and the RSV prove V-twins can cut it with the best of them. Ducati are to MCN what Ferrari are to Top Gear... above reproach. despite their numerous flaws.

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merv007

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merv007 says:

evilamnesiac

your comment is quite baffling. Ducati are light years ahead of the Japanese in terms of electronics, its the Japanese that are a generation behind in terms of not having traction control for example. On the issue of built quality, modern Dukes are much better than Suzuki on finish for example. Plus the running gear is of much higher quality, and they are a few Kilos lighter than the japs too. The Japanese are experts in making ugly motorcyles - have to give them that.

Plus - dont think wanting a bike with style and perfromance makes u a poser, just means of you have blood in your vains.

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merv007

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merv007 says:

higgers

could just as easily say the japs are cheating for using 2 more cylinders and having more power and revs as a result. anyway motogp shows that Ducati can beat the Japs at their own game

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toe_down_sv_racing

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What I See Is ....

Japan has become its own victim of "casual but effective innovation".

For the best part of 10 year, Japanese bikes have been nearly the same as each other, in-line, 600/1000 at various stages here and there. The problem starts at Japan and not the likes of Ducati and Triumph.

Small manufacturers, Triumph a classic example, have massive problems making a like-for-like-bike-beater because their initial budget/ technology/ manufacturing and set up is not geared as highly, or finely, as that fo the Japanese big 4.

Ducati HAVE to go their own way to establish their brand.

Triumph, thankfully, have followed suit with the 675, and eventually with the 1050 daytona ranges .....

Japan has also lost their own "development race" title to other manufacturers, as Honda, always known for innovation have been too obsessed with "safety aids" to really rival smaller riskier companies for newer tech. Bimota made the first mass produced fuel injected bike, Duacti are the first to offer TC as standard now.

Because Japan is so polarised to lead or rival the leader, nobody is willing to stand up and take a new route. this is possibly why MotoGP has become stagnant too, all the major players are too worried about the initial loss to take a gamble for the future.

The irony being that the companies that did take a loss, are now doing extremely well !! Ducati are the poster-company of this as 25 years ago, they where pretty much nowhere - same as triumph.

The Japanese hay-day for 1000cc bikes was 2004-2005 as all the major players had World Superbike fever, with that gone, they have reverted to being stagnant ... And with no imminent change due for the foreseeable future, Japanese bikes will continue to interbreed until all their good material in the gene pool is gone!

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