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Liam Marsden  says:

Valencia MotoGP: Pedrosa takes win at final round

Spaniard Dani Pedrosa took a dominant victory at the final race of 2009 at Valencia after getting the holeshot from the start. Ducati rider Casey Stoner qualified in pole position yesterday but didn't start the race after he high-sided his number 27 Ducati early on in the warm up lap. Fiat Yamaha rider Jorge Lorenzo looked set for second position, ahead of his team-mate...

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Neverking

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Neverking says:

Missed It

I was at work (boo) when the race was on, which was gutting til I found out it was another boring parade. I know we get some exciting races now and again, but it should be exciting every week! The electronics need to be removed, quickly! Then we'll get some crazy races back. Good to see Dani win again, looks like he's finally getting the Honda to play nice again. But all in all, a bit of a weak end to the season.

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9999steve

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9999steve says:

its not just motogp

Come on guys its not just motogp there was a great 125 and 250 race that made the day as well as moaner in the gravel! Cant wait for the whos to blame, shame on Leon Camier for saying it must have been a tech fault and not that his mate could have just made a mistake riding too slow then twisting thte right hand too hard. . . interesting though that he said stoner rides with hardly any traction control too. . . . . .the 3 times ive been to motogp this year the traction control i heard cutting in and out must have been and echo from another bike!!! Well done Danni, Valentino, lorenzo, Nicky, Ben and Colin. . .most of all well done Bradly!!!

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cardiology

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cardiology says:

Countryfile

I was sitting enjoying Countryfile this morning. They were doing a lovely report on trees growing and they showed the grass grow too. Most fascinating. And then the MotoGP came on, but that was a bit more boring than the growing grass.

That was a seriously dull race. Even if Casey hadn't binned it, he'd have been so far in front the racing wouldn't have been in any way exciting. Ben Spies was good, though. He does seem to have the necessary to run 5th next season.

However, the 250's. That was fantastic. Pure drama. Can't wait to see what happens in the 250's next season, it's the jewel in Dorna's crown.

 ...oh...of course...I forgot...

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trailler

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trailler says:

motogp

todays race.....snore!!!! . stoner......what a plonker!!!! . was jl having a bit of a weep after , after the race ? felt sorry for him , just a little bit . ben spies a force to be rekond with . worst bit......never got to see aidrana ( stoners bird ).......bollocks!!!

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trailler

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trailler says:

motogp

oh , nearly forgot , nice one b.smith , good luck next year . is there any brits in moto2 next year?

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Christ you're a pathetic bunch of bitchy school girls

Don't bother watching any races then if all they do is bore you to tears. Just hire the Duke video at seasons end and watch all the best bits which are great, but sadly without the drama because it's not live and you know who won. This is the problem with today's 'now' generation. You want and expect it all. Maybe rather than getting the video you can just stick to your Play Station driven fantasy worlds and have Casey crash on the warm-up lap every time - girly giggle - before Vale hunts down Pedrosa, thrusts and parries with Lorenzo before pipping him to the flag by one thousandth of a second every time. Wow how cool would that be!

If you think taking away the electronics is going to even things up - you're wrong. The 2012 litre bikes give more blokes a show? - no way. Stick 'em all on road legal 250 Ninja's and the 'Aliens' would still be 30 seconds ahead of the 5th pace fella. Not since the early 1990's have we been privileged enough to witness four fantastic riders who are head and shoulders above the rest.

That third group battle was a doozie and very entertaining when the producer decided to show it.

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

The usual numbnuts ...

At the behest of the British Minister for Men's Health, Australian MotoGP rider,Casey Stoner deliberately dialled-in a wee highside and stepped-off the Duc to prevent an epidemic of suicidal wrist-slashing and self-administered fatal poisonings in Great Britain. This surely would have been the case with the Stoner-haters if he had pulled the pin and simply fucked-off and disappeared well out in front of Pedrosa, for the fourth time in a row, as all indications - well - indicated ... Seriously - again, people jump to conclusions and their bias and ignorance display that they know two-thirds of bugger-all. So, let's do it all over ( again ) and attempt to enlighten you ... A verbatim quote : - 
" Ducati will reassess its tire-warming procedures after the formation lap accident that prevented Casey Stoner from racing at Valencia. Stoner had dominated every session of the weekend and taken a comfortable pole position, but then crashed on cold tires as the field headed around to the starting grid. "It was the cold tire," current test rider and incoming team boss Vito Guareschi told Italia1. "We have a procedure that allows us to do the race without fearing to run out of fuel. We must ask the riders to ride the warm-up lap slowly. With these conditions, in the cold weather, the tires didn't get up to temperature and Casey slid. We'll have to review our procedure, because with these cold conditions we are at risk. Today was an example of that. Nicky [Hayden] was lucky, while Casey wasn't. We are on a very thin line. "The team's technical chief Filippo Preziosi is confident that the accident will not be repeated if Ducati changes its preparation for the races. "We obviously need to change this for the future and make sure there is enough temperature in the tire," he said. "It is the first time it has happened in two years but once is already too much so we will look to improve on that. We have some ideas already and we will have something different in place for the first race of next season." Stoner was initially downcast about the crash, but later admitted that it could have happened at a much worse time, as on this occasion the crash did not have any impact on a championship battle. "Obviously this is a frustrating and disappointing way to finish the season," he said. "There have been plenty of highs and lows throughout the year and we have ended on a low, but with another lesson learned for next season. We have had this strategy for two years and not had a problem until today so I guess it is better it happened here than in the first race of next season in Qatar."  ( Source: racer.com )So, Stoner's habit of joining the front of the grid later than most, is not by his personal choice, nor is it deliberately calculated to piss-off his detractors - it is a Team procedure. Is that OK with all you half-wits?

On a more positive note, hats off to Ben Spies - to get into the top 10 would have been great - 7th ( with Stoner's demise ) or 8th is fabulous. Also, congrats to Aoyama who has prevailed despite Honda's negligence ( no parts/development/support ) and the huge handicap for Hiroshi of only one bike and most competitors being on faster machinery. A very worthy last ever 250cc 2-Stroke World Champion.
 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ducati's Coldstones

Nothing wrong with the warm up lap strategy, what I do not understand is Prezioso saying cold tyres. Sure if you've just taken the warmers off, the tyre starts to lose heat, and if the rider is wobbling around for the first half of the lap then they'll get colder. But Casey crashed at turn two. Maybe there's a bit of truth to the rumour that Stoner uses very little traction control. Cooler tyres, less than 100% concentration, no TC and an aggressive throttle delivery would certain provide such a 'hiccup' highside as happened. I reckon the tyre warmer thermostat was not functioning properly. Incidents always happen when you least expect them.

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

Nostrodamus...

Yeah - perzactly, Nostro. I too went through the same rationale and thought process as you have described here. My conclusion? Same as yours - faulty thermo and consequent Bridgefrosts - right when a rider of Stoner's cojones, sublime ability and great experience on the 09 Desmosedici was least expecting it. If you recall, a certain Mr Troy Corser had an eerily similar event way back in WSBK in 1998 ( I think ) at Sugo? Last Round, in the box seat, leading on points, on Pole - only to hurl the entire plot up the road on the sighting Lap - breaking ribs, rupturing his spleen - worse - gifting the Title to the insufferable, eye-diseased Foggy. The best part here was seeing Aaron Slight giving Neil Hodgson lots of biff at the side of the track for " running interference " for el Fogarty and also denying Slight's slight (excuse me) chance of a one and only Title himself. Antipodean antics indeed! At least this one only impacted on the minor placings and no harm done. I hate in when anyone gets hurt or worse. Honestly, these twerps posting on MCN just love to dump their simplistic,ignorant and bigoted bullshit on Stoner. He could find a cure for cancer and even this still wouldn't be good enough for these troglodytes ... CU

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TheCelticHound

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FANNYING ABOUT

Casey was on pole quite comfortably and if he had ridden the warm up lap in or around this position like the rest of the grid then there was less likelyhood of what happened as his tyres would not have had time to cool as much as they did. Blame and  counter blame will continue to ensue but the fact is he was on the same tyres as the vast majority of the grid and no problems were encountered by them including the rest of the mighty red machines. Ciao

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