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cheesemanpaul

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cheesemanpaul says:

Bike on finance? help

HI folks, Need some advice please, I am interested in a zx10r, I have spoke to the chap who seems honest enough.  The bike is in his name and the log book is at the address where i would pick the bike up, He has told me it still has £3000 outstanding and has only not settled up already because he is waiting for a definate sale and the bike is 0% finance.  A quick google search suggests that he lets me settle the finance with a cheque at the finance company direct with the buyer present and pay him the remainder in cash.  Does thie sound like good practice? Really dont want to get spanked:unsure:

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 13:06)

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750FLYER

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750FLYER says:

Sounds like

may get complicated.

If I was you, pay him whatever price you agree on for the bike, the finance is in his name, not the bike.. let him sort that out.

I wouldn't get involved in someone else's finance agreements mate no way... pay him what bike worth.. up to him to clear his debts I think.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 13:16)
kawathrasher

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kawathrasher says:

Flyer

Sorrry to differ but as far as i know the bike belongs to the finance untill the last payment is clear

If for wotever reason the guy stops payin or dosn't clear any outstanding balance they will come n take the bike. Granted that if you have sold said item then they'll have a hard job

But if the new buyer decides the bikes not for him and he trys to sell anybody private/trade could do an hpi on it and this will thell them possibly that there is outstanding finance

Tricky one i know but it could leed to a whole lotta greif

 

:mellow::wacko::mellow:

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 13:32)
urbmark

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urbmark says:

Walk away...

Unless he clears the finance **First** You then do a Data check ie HPI to make sure the bike is clear before parting with your hard earned money.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 13:51)
scorps

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scorps says:

way too negative chaps

it is common practise and any finance company should be more than happy to aid a sale if they know the settlement payment is going to be paid. They are the ones who own the bike not the rider. Things start to go wrong when the person selling the bike is given the amount needed to settle.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 15:27)
carbonni

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carbonni says:

Well said scorps

If you are really interested, the best route is for you to clear the outstanding debt with the finance company and then hand the balance direct to the owner.
This way, the finance is guaranteed to be cleared, (seller can not stop your cheque etc).

I'm not 100% but I'm sure there are complications on legal ownership during the admin process once you pay the finance company - some ask for the seller to gain permission to sell before you can do anythign IIRC.

A little bit of hassle but whatever you do, do not give the full amount to the seller if there is any doubt about outstanding finance.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 16:11)
SheffieldSteel

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SheffieldSteel says:

Id be weery mate

you need to prove that ya'v got it payed off.

Pay the £3 and do that text check, Ive used it and its quite good. Lets you know everything about the bikes past and owed finance.

If it were me, Id steer clear of it.

Or, go to the finance company with him and with the log book, get it on paper before you do the swap.

If he does you, you loose ya cash and ya bike:blink:

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 16:25)
zak03

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zak03 says:

bike

me thinks you should phone finance company tell them you want to buy the bike and how much is owed on it they may not tell you though due to data protection and there may be a penalty to pay for paying early but the finance company will own the bike untill its paid in full so be carefull if he says he will pay finance off with your money dont believe him if he dont pay you loose bike hope this helps

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 16:48)
ianscotty

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ianscotty says:

zak03

There,s no way his finance company will enter into a discussion with a 3rd party about money owed on the bike.They aren,t allowed to by law.I don,t think finance for a bike works like it once did where the bike was the property of the finance company  until the loan was settled in full.These days I believe  it,s a personal loan leaving the vendor wholly responsible for any money outstanding, but if I was buying the bike I would make sure before I handed over any money.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 20:11)
RoadieRoger

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RoadieRoger says:

Too Trusting

Too many things to go wrong .Walk away and look for another would be my advice . If he`s keen to sell he`ll find a way .

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 20:32)
LeeMorgan

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LeeMorgan says:

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Having spent 9yrs in the motor trade i think i am able to comment on this.

The bike is on 0% finance, There is no fee's with a 0% deal . The finance company have been paid by the garage or manufacturer ( there profit ) when the bike was bought, All they want now it the final balance . The bike is the finance company's until the balance is paid. The owner is not aloud to sell it until he owns it/ has paid for it. It will state that on his finance docs. Don't buy it until it is paid for ...... This is an easy warning . You will lose if you play this game. 

If he is serious about it then offer him a deposit and you can pay him after the finance is settled.

He might be gen and all ligit BUT if it goes wrong and he ain't gen he won't lose out YOU will.

Hope you understand all of above :)

Lee

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  • Posted 3 years ago (10 June 2010 20:38)

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