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Andy Downes  says:

Marshals may face manslaughter charges over Shoya Tomizawa death

Rimini prosecutor Paolo Giovagnoli has opened an investigation into the death of Japanese Moto2 rider Shoya Tomizawa which could see marshalls who dealt with the dying rider facing manslaughter charges, according to the Italian press. Tomizawa died at Misano on Sunday following a horrific crash on lap 12 of the race. Tomizawa’s death is now being investigated with ‘unnamed people’ being...

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monkeyseemonkeydo

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Imola

As has been said, it is just the way the crazy Italians seem to do things... Having seen the crash it wouldn't surprise me if Shoya was dead following the initial impacts so nothing the marshals did could have changed the outcome.

For completeness, please note that Ayrton Senna and Roland Ratzenberger died at Imola in San Marino in 1994, not at Misano.

Ride in peace Shoya.

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perenialnovice

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oddly

it used be only Japanese marshals that dragged injured riders about, gave them a sword and acted like ; you embarrasement, fall on that.

Like one of the later comments said, not one of them behaved correctly. Just think if  your own lad was racing and you saw him treated like Tommy was.

So so sad, RIP ST

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afy300

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afy300 says:

CANT STOP CRYING OVER THIS...

Guys.....i just want to repost a link so you can send your condolences to Shoya's family.

http://www.motogp.com/en/contact/tributetotomizawa

its on the MotoGP website.

what can i say.....i cant get this out of my mind. just so heartbreaking. We will never forget you Shoya. Rest in peace buddy.

This is a nice video i found on youtube...there are lots of them now....but this one i think best reflects Shoya's spirit and courage....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12dKK3fw7s

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afy300

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afy300 says:

Guys.....i just want to repost a link so you can send your condolences to Shoya's family.

 

http://www.motogp.com/en/contact/tributetotomizawa

 

its on the MotoGP website.

what can i say.....i cant get this out of my mind. just so heartbreaking. We will never forget you Shoya. Rest in peace buddy.

This is a nice video i found on youtube...there are lots of them now....but this one i think best reflects Shoya's spirit and courage....

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12dKK3fw7s
 

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storm1000

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storm1000 says:

Who's the priority

Like most of the comments on here,I can not believe how these riders were treated.When I saw Scott get scoped up onto the stretcher and then dropping Shoya running across the gravel I was sickened.The Marshalls and the race directors seemed to be  more bothered about keeping the race moving so they didn't delay the Moto GP race(allegedly).If this had been a BSB meeting  the race would have been red flagged or the safety car deployed and the riders would have received the attention they needed.

Moto Gp needs to wake up and follow BSB where the riders well fare comes first and not keeping to the tv schedule at all cost.

RIP Shoya

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kevh82065

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kevh82065 says:

Daijiro Kato

I seem to remember shuddering when I saw the way the marshalls handled Daijiro as well. They didn't put a neck brace on him and dropped him onto the stretcher! I agree with people that this is a selection and training issue, not just at one circuit but all of them. There should be common standards everywhere which need to be independently monitored. I also hope that the many great marshalls who give up their time will not be offended by my or anybody elses heartfelt comments.

Kev

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

Italians drawing a very long bow ...

Context is everything. To mention the Italians pursuing every man and their dogs in relation to the Ayrton Senna fatality is to display gross ignorance of the circumstance and it is right out of context. It should be remembered that the Italians were sorely EMBARRASSED following the seemingly cursed fiasco of the San Marino F1 GP at Imola on 1st May 1994. First, Rubens Barrichello was almost killed in a huge crash in qualifying. Second, the very next day, Roland Ratzenberger's Simtek-Ford had a wing failure and belted the concrete wall at very high speed. He died on impact. At the start of the race itself, JJ Lehto stalled on the start line and promptly got rammed big time from behind by Pedro Lamy. Lamy's car shed a wheel which launched into the main grandstand injuring a Policeman and 8 race watchers. The pace car came out but went sooooo slow that all the F1 cars lost heat and pressure in their tyres with Senna drawing alongside and gesticulating for more speed. On the re-start, Senna clouted the wall on the outside of Tamburello at high speed. At least 2 separate parts of the right front suspension system penetrated his helmet and skull. It was NOT a survivable crash - even with Dr Sid Watkins and his highly skilled, experienced and talented team being on the spot within minutes and treating Senna.

I remain mystified why at least some Marshalls are not equipped with medical " back boards " which come equipped with head and neck restraints. These are " slid " under casualties and are even translucent so that X-Rays may be taken without the casualty being moved again and risking spinal/neck damage. However, having said all that - there are legal risks here too - Marshalls are there to provide immediate track-clearance and NOT specialist first aid or what amounts to combat med services. This circumstance has happened dozens of times B4and came as no surprise to me. The Italians are simply going through the motions here and the entire " blame game " and any legal or criminal ramificationsis not to be taken seriously ...

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adrenalin

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adrenalin says:

I think maybe the time has come to have professional full time marshalls at MotoGP ao that the same marshalls are employed at every round and standards can be raised and most importantly medical procedures standardised across the world.   It is shocking to see the differences in care and attitude as you go from one GP to the next when it comes to marshalling.

I know that marshalls are mostly volunteers giving up their free time to help out in most cases, and that 99.9% of the time they do a brilliant job. It is however in these extreme circumastances when professional standards really do need to be applied and care is required to be at teh highest standards straight away.

I can't beleive that the Indy Moto2 GP was red flagged immediately following waht was a relatively minor accident atturn two (albeit involving a number of bikes/riders) yet this one was alloweed to continue with riders and dbris on the racing line!

Maybe manslughter charges are a bit too much, but there certainly needs to be an in depth and thorough review of marshalling and medical procedures at every race.

 

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saintmo

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saintmo says:

My 2 pence

Race should have been red flagged. End of! That way there is less pressure on the marshals to clear the track for oncoming riders.

Craig Jones' accident is a prime example. From what I remember, the race was immediately red flagged and the rider given priority.

As for cancelling the event, it just won't happen and I understand why. You can't end an event of this magnitude even in the most dire of circumstances. Where does that argument end? Cancellation of the TT races upon news of a fatality. I don't think so. It sounds right, but it doesn't work in the real world.

Tomizawa deserved more respect, more dignity. As do all of our heroes.

Complete and utter shambles and too often we let our mistakes be our guide.

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maazzz1

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maazzz1 says:

After living and working in Italy for the last four years, I can say that the farce and tragedy that was witnessed by all does not come as a surprise to me at all unfortunately. Watching the news, then the incident again and the handling of the Tomizawa and Redding was almost surreal, and if it wasn’t so tragic it would of been comical; a skit you would expect to see played out by Monty Python seeing the way the marshals man handled the riders. However it was real and it happened and unfortunately a young person lost his life.

The investigation is needed, and I hope it will hold accountable the individuals and also Dorna as the promoter and organiser and bring to light the real truth. According to Dorna, trained medical staff were apparently on or near the scene (according to race officials doctors where in an ambulance behind the barriers). You guys have probably read it already but here is the official version of the event from race direction http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Press+Conference+Race+Direction+Shoya+Tomizawa

To my way of thinking, if this is the case, the fact that the events were allowed to unfold as they did is negligent. Somebody with the sort of injuries sustained by Tomizawa as described by Dr Macchiagodena, should not of been manhandled the way he was and it seems obvious that the marshals were not adequately trained which is not their fault but that of the organisers. I take on board acquarius’ point about the Marshals role, however this is not even close to being appropriate. The race should have been red flagged and the ambulance allowed on the scene immediately.

I hope Tomizawa’s legacy to MotoGp goes beyond his racing and will once and for all force the authorities and promoters who seem to be a law unto themselves, make security and safety the priority and adopt safety protocols similar to those that exist else where in the world rather than favour TV rights and commercial sponsorships.

As spectators and fans we also can act on this matter, collectively we can have an impact by simply lobbying (writing a letter to Dorna and major sponsors) and then boycotting watching and attending MotoGp events. I for one will be giving MotoGp a miss until something fairdinkum is done.

RIP Tomizawa
 

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