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Cleanwipe

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Cleanwipe says:

BBC1 9PM TONIGHT

The traffic cops unveil a secret weapon in their fight against dangerous bikers intent on riding their luck on Sussex's open roads - an undercover motorbike equipped with video cameras and ridden by the police's own 'Stig'.

Yeah right

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Kamchat

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Kamchat says:

londonangel

Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it .:winkie:..

I note that most of it is based on 'what if's' - ie. 'what if' they had caused an accident or 'what if' my family were hurt etc. ...Call me 'liberal' but I don't think we should be locking people up based on 'what if's' ......

At no point did I see any of those bikers cause and accident or even nearly cause an accident .... in fact the only accident we saw was a woman in a car run into the back of a van because the vehicles in front braked when they spotted the police on the overhead bridge (and probably assumed it was yet another 'speed trap')

So the only people in the programme who actually caused a risk to the public and put lives at risk were the police themselves (all in the interest of making 'good TV' ). .

 

 

As for your statement...

  'Its about time people realised that road laws in this country are there for a reason'

 

I take it we can assume that you never break the speed limit on that bike of yours then ?  :winkie:

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londonangel

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londonangel says:

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Yep, it is my opinion agreed.

I think you are missing the point..

you are right, you didn't see the bikers cause an accident, probably because they were stopped before it happened, the way they were riding it was inevitable, no one, however good a rider they are could ever say that they were in total control of a bike doing 'power slides' or wheelying up a road doing 80mph....if you do then sorry, you are deluded! it was pure luck that the cameras didn't witness something pretty horrific!!

The police were doing their job, ie, ensuring the safety of ALL road users, including those bikers!! to let them carry on that behaviour would be negligent to say the least. I'm glad they were taken off the road that day!

To ride a bike like that however experienced is suicidal, and yes maybe my post was based on 'what if's' ....your point being??? that is the point, they put other road users at risk with the way they were riding. They had no respect, thats what I have a problem with.

Yes I probably have exceeded the speed limit on my bike on accasion, I won't deny it, thats not saying its right to do that though, its not, and I see the risks in doing so, what I don't do is power slide or wheelie when there are other riders in close proximity to me or cars full of families!!!, if you are saying thats ok to do because they obviously 'had control' (???!!) then I am surprised at someone with your experience and knowledge..

Like I said, I've seen the consequences of the inconsiderate, selfish actions of twats like were on that programme last night and believe me, its not pleasant

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Kamchat

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Kamchat says:

londonangel

'Yes I probably have exceeded the speed limit on my bike on accasion, I won't deny it, thats not saying its right to do that though, its not, and I see the risks in doing so, what I don't do is power slide or wheelie when there are other riders in close proximity to me or cars full of families!!!,'

 

So ... it's ok to pick and choose which 'laws of the road' we obey then?  Speeding - Ok ... wheelies - a big  'No,No' . .:huh:.

 

' if you are saying thats ok to do because they obviously 'had control' (???!!) then I am surprised at someone with your experience and knowledge..'

Don't be surprised :winkie:.... I have been known to overtake vehicles on my back wheel ....... but that's just me - mass murdering, terrorist, public enemy no.1...

... No.1 cause of deaths in UK - yep, - it's probably wheelies. :tongue:

 

God help us all when the taliban learn to do wheelies. :winkie:   

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

aye

People would possibly change their opinion if they had an idea of the cost of just stabilising someone in resus, never mind their on going treatment after they've crippled themselves and never mind the air ambulance required to get them there before they popped it. It all comes out of taxes. It's quite possible that only 20 or so serious bike crashes are required to hit a million quid in acute care alone - these things cost a phenomenal amount of money, regardless of other considerations.

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londonangel

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londonangel says:

philhidiot

Nice to see that the majority on here have an adult, considered mature point of view!

You are right, not to mention the psychological effects on family, friends, and the healthcare professionals, Firefighters, Police, Paramedics who have dealt with it before it even gets to the resus stage!, or the general public for that matter who witness such incidents, not something you forget too easily.

The Traffic cops programme just highlighted to me even more that there a re the few who spoil it for everyone else, its hardly surprising the police get pissed off with bikers when they are dealing with idiots like the ones caught on camera last night, not all were riding badly thats true, but the group at the beginning were dangerous.

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stufb

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stufb says:

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cant help but to say wot accident    got to agree with kam there wernt one

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beaconsman

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beaconsman says:

cyclist

Id have nicked him..

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londonangel

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londonangel says:

stufb

No one is saying there was an accident.....

Point is the way they were riding was putting themselves and other road users at risk, there but for the grace of god....thank god there wasn't one,

Its a good job the majority of us don't ride like that or condone it

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stufb

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stufb says:

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yes i do take ya point  

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Kamchat

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Kamchat says:

londonangel

'but the group at the beginning were dangerous'

 

A large section of the population would consider just riding a motorbike to be dangerous .... 

Would you therefore stop motorcycling to appease them?

If not, why not ?  - if motorbikes were banned there would be no motorbike accidents at all! (Think of all the money and trama saved)   .... welcome to your wonderful world. :winkie:  ( we could also ban horseriding, rock climbing, paragliding, rugby, running with scissors, ........)  

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