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James-K

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2011 Honda CBR600F creators speak out

The creators of the 2011 Honda CBR600F say they hope the new bike will revitalise the 600cc market by offering riders a less extreme user-friendly sports bike. 2011 Honda CBR600F gallery Sales of more focused supersports 600s are down and they believe it's because today's riders want a more useable package. 2011 Honda CBR600F - full tech specs CBR600F project leader Luca Caruso told...

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  • Posted 3 years ago (09 November 2010 14:39)

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evilamnesiac

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evilamnesiac says:

Too right!

If they developed every bike entirely individually, with no shared components then they would cost alot more than they do now. oddly people never seem to mention Ducati using an engine and frame for more than one bike, or Triumph, or BMW. but the second a jap make does it they are up in arms, its brand snobbery and hypocrisy of the worst kind. I don't care if every component comes from other bikes, tried and tested parts with a cheaper price isn't a bad thing.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (13 November 2010 14:46)
bikemad123

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bikemad123 says:

wtf

wot a heap of junk not saying it doesnt look good or isnt great value for money but to call it a cbr is something it is not maybe the cbf or hornet f ,wots next honda the fireblade f ? think im gonna be trading my cbr600rr in for an yamaha r6 i think cos am not avin my bike associated with this heap of junk !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Posted 3 years ago (13 November 2010 21:44)
SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

Kind of tough

to get excited about the 2011 CBR600F, when it's clearly inferior to (and pretty much a cheap, knocked-down version of) the 2008 CBR600F.   Makes it difficult to consider it worth more than a second hand pre-2008 model.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (14 November 2010 01:37)
Flipout360

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Flipout360 says:

bikemad123/SlowLearner

bikemad123 - maybe you should just think about selling your bike and not buying a new one if you're so worried about how you come across with your particular choice. If you're that thin skinned about it then you're nothing more than a poser who cares nothing for the art of riding. SlowLearner - quite how you work out that the 2008 CBR600F was superior to this is beyond me. The looks are a bit off in my opinion so the old bike wins there but in terms of the rest of the bike, the current Hornet is both faster and easier to ride than the CBR-Fs that I've ridden (yes I may be biased as a Hornet owner but I ridden and owned plenty of bikes over the years and currently have 4 in the garage). If they get the suspension right then I think this will be a hard bike to beat given the good spread of power from the hornet engine and light weight. If they can keep the price down to somewhere near the hornet then this would definitely be worth the money. The current CBR600RR is not worth the money they are currently after if you actually want to ride on the roads. You'd need to live on a track and have a hefty supply of sticky rubber to ever get any proper usage out of that bike (and I say that having spent the last few months trying to decide whether to plump for the new RR8).

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  • Posted 3 years ago (14 November 2010 12:38)
svdv

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svdv says:

If the price is right

and the tank range is decent, I still think it'll be a really good bike that'll sell well, regardless of whatever badge is on it. The headlight unit looks a bit off, but from the side (especially with a rear hugger, cowl, and tail tidy) it's a good looking bike. No-one that absolutely wants a supersports bike will buy one, but plenty of people are put off by the price of the current supersports, don't spend their lives doing track days, but at the same time don't want a dull-as-dishwater CBF600, and for those people this will be ideal and fills a genuine gap in the market.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (14 November 2010 18:09)
fuzzrr

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fuzzrr says:

Flipout

*The current CBR600RR is not worth the money they are currently after if you actually want to ride on the roads. You'd need to live on a track and have a hefty supply of sticky rubber to ever get any proper usage out of that bike (and I say that having spent the last few months trying to decide whether to plump for the new RR8).*

 

Fair play.... That is the biggest amount of b*ll*cks I have read on here for a long while.  The CBR600RR is a great road bike, and can be used properly on the road by the right person. As for sticky tyres, you dont need super soft track tyres these days to ride fast on the road. The new dual compound 'sports touring' tyres are more than up to the job, and give good milage.

And no I aint biased. I dont own an RR at the moment, but did in the past and couldn't fault it.

If you dont want a full on supersports bike that you wouldn't be able to use, then fine, dont buy one. Go buy the Hornet with a fairing instead. But to say the supersports bikes cannot be ridden on the road to anywhere near their potential is rubbish.  And like you said, you have 'thought' about buying one...... Probably never lived with one and actually got to grips with one then.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (15 November 2010 06:38)
DukeFirenze

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DukeFirenze says:

Full circle!

Well i think this bike will sell in bucket loads... surely all over about 30 remember what the original CBR600 was all about, 1987 it came out and for years was the best selling bike, then it went into both F and rr and now the f returns and everyone is slating it as its not a track missile... Surely biking is about choice, if your want a track refugee go get one, if you want something that for 90% of us will be just as fast on track or road but will not leave you needing the oesteopath after 200 miles in the saddle then this is a great choice! (and yes after 15000 touring miles on things like R1's and Ducati 1098S this sort of bike is making a lot of sense!! maybe in a 800 or 1000 though for more grunt!) many top sports bikes are getting too extreme for real road use - and no, no-one can effectively unleash 170BHP safely on the road (queue tons of Rossi wannabee's who think they can!), many riders enjoy racking up lots of miles but want something sporty looking and can cut it on a track day, i think this and that new 1000 kawasaki are giving that option.

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  • Posted 3 years ago (15 November 2010 11:20)
CBR50mpg

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CBR50mpg says:

Too Late!

The amount of fully faired sports bikes out there now are made for the track ie; supersports, BSB & WSB.

I became a born again biker 5 yrs ago after a gap of over 20 yrs in 4 wheels. I bought a safe option cbr600 as this was the bike, i thought, would suit me. I am not a racer but a rider that enjoys a ride out but also the quick ride. Being behind a fairing helps and the riding position is easy on my back & wrists. The present day sports bikes do not. I frequently get 150+ miles to reserve(14 litres) with approx 30 more in reserve(3 litres). My riding style kept me away from the naked bikes & after test riding the 2010 Daytona675, which being a torquey triple. might suit me. How wrong was i. This led me to buying my BMW 800ST. If only the 2011 CBR was anounced earlier, i could have held back until a test ride. I could still trade my '95CBR in for the new one.

 

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  • Posted 3 years ago (15 November 2010 15:37)
bikemad123

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bikemad123 says:

flipout 360

well i have owned my rr6 for 4years an have got plenty of potential out of it and to be honest wouldnt bother with the rr8 the have ridden one an not much different to mine slightly lighter maybe an abs for the leaners.trouble is with all these modern 4cyl 600s is you just gotta rev the tits of it to get anywhere bit like a two stroke really  not that it isnt fun mind! an that rev limiter gets on your tits do you not think!

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  • Posted 3 years ago (15 November 2010 21:03)
TDRPETE

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TDRPETE says:

What has happened to honda motorcycles?Gone is the day that you can buy a honda motorcycle that has been designed ,styled and built in japan by japanese engineers and designers.Now they all come from honda italy, honda india and honda montesa factories.If i wanted an italian built  and designed bike i would buy a ducati.As for the cross tourer, just another bmw, same goes to the new vfr.I see honda is also building a new scooter or half bike half scooter,did they not already explore this idea with the dno1 come on honda wots happening, what would sochiro think?

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  • Posted 3 years ago (16 November 2010 11:08)

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