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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati ponders seven-bike entry in 2012

Ducati could extend its involvement in the new look 1000cc four-stroke MotoGP world championship to seven bikes in 2012. The Bologna factory will field six bikes in 2011 having agreed to lease a GP11 for Czech Republic rider Karel Abraham back in August. But talks have already commenced with the Valencia-based Aspar Ducati squad, run by former 125GP world champion Jorge Martinez,...

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adrenalin

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adrenalin says:

If they cant run a single factory WSBK Team you know they arent going to field 7 teams in motogp

Ducati won't be running them will they? the extra bike will be run (and paid for ) by the ASPAR team so there would be very little extra investment needed by Ducati and certainly a lot less than it would cost to run a competitive WSBK team!

Ducati MotoGP is fully funded by Marlboro, so money has little to do with their withdrawal from Superbikes. It has a lot more to do with petulance over the rules and what they see as cheating by Aprilia.

A recent interview with Colin Edwards at superbikeplanet.com pretty much confirms this.

 

 

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fanofthesport

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look again

It says that Ducati are looking to field 7 riders, not 7 teams.  That is only one more rider than they will have in this upcoming year.  The number of Duc teams will remain the same in 2012 as in 2011 (as far as anyone currently knows)

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Dan250N

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Dan250N says:

7 bikes!!!

the likes of suzuki should hang their heads in shame if a little factory like Ducati can field 6-7 bikes, yet the struggle with one. I'll echo the earlier comment, Honda and Ducati are propping this series up.

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jedpb

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jedpb says:

phinmac

The reason ducati aren't running a team in WSB is because the rules don't suit them to make it a level playing field. Which is why they are developing a new production bike for 2012.

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sadsack

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sadsack says:

DUCATI WSB

shouldn`t they make their bike suit the rules if the rules dont suit them.The rules suit everyone else ok.In 2008 the rules suited them when they was winning,now because they haven`t won for 2 years the rules dont suit.There must be another reason for them leaving WSB,i cant see a top team like DUCATI just giving up just to race in MOTOGP when they have been so succesful.WSB`s are more like road bikes than MOTOGP bikes so surely wins in WSB means more sales in the showroom.Or is it the rossi factor put rossi on any bike and people will buy it, so do DUCATI just want sales or are they going to come out racing next season.....LETS HOPE SO:smile  

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chrisg011

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chrisg011 says:

Rossi and Red

Speaking from Italy and seeing the press articles Ducati has gained far greater publicity in Rossi's move than they had with Stoner/Haga/Fabrizio's races, crashes and wins.

I'm not knocking the WSB team but for Ducati they under performed in gaining publicity and thier investment into Rossi will readdress that balance. Add to this thier proven record in WSBK, the 1198 and Checa who will win one or two next year and stepping back for two years while the new bike is developed is not going to damage sales.

And yes, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha should hang thier heads in shame - 3 manufacturers and 5 bikes between them while Ducati fields 6/7 bikes.

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chrisg011

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chrisg011 says:

Lest we forget

The huge sums of money paid to Spies and Lorenzo which could be used elsewhere...

But the point is Suzuki, Kawa and Yamaha are vast organisations with interests outside of the world of motorbikes which should and can be used to sustain thier macro-economies while Ducati replies upon US - the bikers - to stay afloat, support racing and provide us with huge entertainment during the season and now, in the off season through pontification and posting to forums.

The three factories should be more involved...

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mrblistershifter

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and so.......

you can't save your way in to a profit.....

the cost of doing business is not an expense.....

you have to spend money to make money.....

go big or stay at home.....

you can't win if you don't play.....

 

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CosherB

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CosherB says:

flag-to-flag racing

is this a contributary factor to a dearth of bikes on the MotoGP grid?  had there been a single bike rule, surely this would have potentially increased grid sizes as there are in theory 34 bikes at every race weekend?  development costs for the bikes remains the same, but i guess TV demands killed off that idea ...

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adrenalin

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adrenalin says:

ducati has no choice but to push to the limit. even in financial matters. they pay rossi, my prediction, more than $ 30M, JB about $ 10-15M, not include all his crew. if they fail, they would surely in the edge of bangkrupt. BUT it's only my prediction.

These costs are not paid by Ducati! They are mostly paid by Philip Morris tobacco with the assistance of other major sponsors.  Rossi may get $30 million in total but a lot of that will come from persoanl sponsors and endorsements rather than from team coffers or sponsors.  Ducati are the only MotoGP to cover all of their racing costs through sponsorship so I don't think they will bankrupt themselves just yet.

Ducati may be petulant and appear childish in leaving WSBK because the rules don't suit them, bu cast your mind back just a few years and remember that pretty much all of the Japanese factories did exactly the same thing when they weren't winning adn rules didn't suit the 750 4 cyl bikes.

Ducati will be back in WSBK with a factory backed team (maybe with Rossi on board?)as soon as they have a bike they think can win, not just the odd race but be a championship contender again. 

 

 

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