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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

VTR - PROBLEM PLEASE HELP!!

Hi - Hopefully someone can help me out with a problem with my VTR 1000F (1999).

 

The initial problem started with the battery not charging, i could start it using jump leads and following that ride the bike, but if i allowed the bike to tick over/idle at traffic lights for example it would just cut out.

Made a few checks using multimeter, as shown in the haynes manual, and I found a current leakage problem in the 10A circuit, which, accordinig to the circuit diagram in the manual, was related to the odometer/tachometer. So I removed the fuse and the bike seemed to be ok - So I left it out.

What seemed strange was that the odometer/mileometer and the speedometer seemed to work ok......which seemed a little strange.

After riding the bike (fuse is still out) for about 15 - 20 miles, with no apparent problems, with the exception that on stopping at trafiic lights a couple of times I thought i could spell oil or something similar, however on both occassions there were roadworks going on with tarmac lorries in the close vicinity, so I put it down to that. AFter the 15 - 20 miles the speedomer stopped working at the same time the odometer/speedometer also stopped working and after about 10/20 seconds the bike cut out, and there seemed to be an oil related smell!!

I havent tried to start the bike - but am going to collect this afternoon!!

 

ANY IDEAS ON WHERE I MAY START TO LOOK FOR THE PROBLEM WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED

 

Regards

Kevin N

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kcmc

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kcmc says:

Honda VTR 1000F 1999

Hi Kev and welcome to he site

This sound like a classic Honda Regulator/Rectifier Problem,which everway it will either be the battery being cooked or the reg/rec its self burning or the wiring to it,that is giving the burning smell?.Sorry to say but the 10amp fuse thing i don't think has anything to do with this problem?.If it is(and i think it is?) you will need a new reg/rec and battery and hopefully no wiring at the reg/rec plug.Good Luck.

KCMC:tongue:

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

VTR 1000F problem

thx for that kcmc - will get out the haynes manual + meter and check out the rectifier this weekend

thx again for your help

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

Honda VTR 1000F - Problem

Hi again KCMC - Does the following reaffirm your first reply. When I picked up the bike yesterday I turned on ignition and there was not even a glimpse of life, none of the lights were on....the neutral indicator, stand ...etc

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jaffa90

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jaffa90 says:

cooked

It`s possible that your battery is cooked because of the reg/rectifier as kcmc says.

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

VTR 100f problem

Thx for your reponses - havent managed to get meter but at least I have a starting point.

Any ideas on the initial problem I had with the odometer circuit/fuse giving about 0.5 a leakage current from battery? That was the reason I took out the fuse, when i did leakage current stopped and bike seemed ok - do you think its simply two different unrelated problems and coincidental that the problem with the odometer circuit happened just before batt/reg problem. I hoie this is the case as from the electrical drawing in the haynes manual its only the odometer on the 10A circuit, and certaily nothing to do with battery/rectifier

Cheers lads - for all your help - stay safe!

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jaffa90

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jaffa90 says:

piss

Your taking the piss,how do you know you have a .5 leakage without a meter/amp/multi,don`t waste our time or come up with something better than bullshat.

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

vtr problem - not taking the p***

Jaffa,

Sorry you feel like that i am certainly not taking the p***.  Maybe jut didnt explain it very well.

Had an initial problem where, the bike engine would run ok but would not idel properly, usually stall and would then need to be jump started. Using my multi meter, i found a leakage current of .5a. Took out fuses one by one and by process of elimination when the 10A fuse for the odometer circuit was removed, the leakage current was not there, so i assumed a problem with this circuit and i no longer had the problem of the battery not charging. So i left the fuse out and rode the bike without the fuse in it. But after about 30 or so miles i had the problem as described in the first post, and is the situation i am now in.

I could not check with my meter as it was left at my place of work which i forgot and had no access to it at time of writing the last mail, so I am not taking the piss, and in addition to the explanation why would i waste my time making up that

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jaffa90

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jaffa90 says:

ok

Lets start with some voltage readings from the battery (using a bike battery charger) before, and after charging,an hour after charging,when the bike is cranking, on tickover,and when at 4,000 rpm.If the reading goes above 14.5/15vdc at 4,000rpm stop the engine. 

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

vtr problem

thanks for that - will be going back home next friday(where bike is located) and will tak meter with me, I will check what you have suggested and repost.

Thx for your hlp

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kayjayen

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kayjayen says:

vtr problem

Jaffa

Finally got to my bike yesterday, unfortunately today I am back at work but i managed to find out the following:

  1. Battery voltage before charging 1.33v
  2. Charged battery for 7 hours - voltage then 12.85v (according to manual fully charged battery should be 13.0 - 13.3)
  3. After 1 hour battery voltage 12.53v

Have not carried out other tests you told me to, am concerned I will do more damage than already done. Will not get to bike till next weekend. From the above, would you suggest I do other tests or does the above suggest battery needs replacing before I go any further.

Thanks again for your help

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