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Liam Marsden  says:

Phillip Island WSB: Checa does the double

Carlos Checa rounded off a perfect weekend at Phillip Island with victory in race two to take home a maximum of 50 points and the World championship lead. Nobody was able to keep pace with Checa once he took the lead a few laps in, and he soon pulled away from the chasing pack. Max Biaggi again finished second, after a long...

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wak1309

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wak1309 says:

Great Curtain Raiser

I'm gutted I couldn't sort my Sky box out in time (decorating!!) so I had to be content with the highlights show!!

A great race by most of the brits considering their respective circumstances! Very worried for JT though. I'm glad BishopR6 agrees with what I've said before, and JT isn't as bad as the results are showing but Yamaha have really knocked the stuffing out of him??

It does look ominously like it's gonna be the battle of the over 35's this year unless one or two of the young guns can teach them some new tricks?? You gotta love Checa though, he even apologised for 'boring' the spectators!!!

Shout for Sam Lowes? He was desperately unlucky to lose the podium on the line!! (Is it nasty of me to say if he'd veered left as they went for the line he might've got it? It looked like he tried but perhaps didn't want to take the others and himself out? His racecraft will develop!)

If Biaggi stops shaving and eats too much pasta will that level the weight issue??

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screamer69

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screamer69 says:

Bring on Motogp!

how serious can i take wsbk when a couple of old dudes who would be running at the back of the grid in GP are winning races?

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Spengler

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Spengler says:

Top speeds

SeanFoley77: 12 mph you say?!

Fastest speeds set in race 2:

Biaggi = 319

Rea = 318

Haga = 316

Camier = 315

Lascorz = 315

Smrz = 314

Laverty = 313

Melandri = 312

Sykes = 312

Poor old Checa = 301!!

 

 

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IcantRIDEaBIKE

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screamer69

How seriously could you take F1 when schumacher was winning at 37?

How seriously can you take the Isle of Man TT when John Mcguiness and even Bruce Anstey are fighting for wins?

How seriously can you take BSB when Micheal Rutter is out front fighting?

These 'old dudes' are still fast and still deserve massive respect, you don't beat the likes of Haslam, Melandri, Rea etc. without ridiculous levels of skill. I'm not an old dude BTW before you slam me down.

There are some helmets on here nowadays!

 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Top Speed

I just had a butchers at the results of race 2 at P.I last year - the one in which Checa won. Checa's top speed also 301kmph. Top Ducati Smrz 312 only 1kmph behind the fastest bike of all Biaggi's Aprilia.

Top speed is a product of two things;

1: Horsepower

2: Gearing

At a basic level a racer will gear his bike via rear and front sprockets for max revs in top gear just before the braking point. These world guys are also fiddling with the internal gearbox cogs trying to find the best compromise gear ratios to maximise drive off the corners.

So there could be a bit of the gearing scenario to consider. However the biggest reason for the top speed differential is Checa simply flocked off up front and never got the still air tow that the others did. Slip streaming is significant.

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olly8000

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olly8000 says:

TWO WHEELED PORN!

Well done to Carlos deserved win but was it just me or did anyone else feel like we were watching a re-run of  a Moto GP race with a certain Mr C. Stoner running away at the front and everyone else playing catch up, what is it with Duke's and Phillip Island!? Hats off to Marco Biaggi had to work for that one shame the Yam hasn't got the straight line speed of the Aprilla but wait till Donny should be more of a level playing field. Good riding by Sam aswell nice to see a Kwak up the pointy end of the race, just got to wait for what seems like forever now until Moto GP round 1 and WSBK round 2 we wait all winter for a fix then they tease us with a cheeky race in Aus then deprive us for nearly a month then we get back to back weekends of two wheeled porn - the bastards! :) 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

I'll listen when you talk sense

Top speed is but one component that adds up to fast lap times - sure it's an advantage, but 6kmph between Biaggi and Melandri is pretty damn negligible. How about the composure of Checa's Duke - how much time is that worth? To absolutely maximise top speed you need to be pretty handy on the anchors too. Seemed to me that Biaggi used the tow well and was braver than Melandri diving into the frighteningly fast 5th gear Doohan curve. I don't deny that the Aprilia is the best bike out there - although it still has weaknesses like it's skitishness. But Biaggi and crew made it the best through sheer hard work, he's earned the right to use it! You got the balls to pull the pin of a flightly 220hp missle and barrel into Doohan at 270kmph?

The reason I checked last years speeds Brainbox was due to another poster pointing out yesterdays top speeds. I did this for comparative purposes whilst also trying to point out the reason Checa's speed was down, O.K? As for your other question. I asked myself and said 'yes'. You might want to check Biaggi's career history.

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racinjetford

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racinjetford says:

SeanFoley77

 "...the ONLY thing that guaranteed biaggi 2nd was the Straight."  Really?  So the corners leading up to the straight mean nothing at all?  Yeah Melandri was basically out riding Max at P.I. into corners, because that's where HE had the advantage.-  (is that how it works?)  -Don't be silly.  Max got second because he put a start and race together that ended him in second.  He isn't cheating.  Unless it's also an unfair advantage to have a hot woman to race in front of.  Then for sure he and melandri both have an unfair advantage

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CottonRunt

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CottonRunt says:

Well done Sam Lowes

Cracking start to your season, and a really good opener for Leon Haslam too. Bodes well for the rest of the year. I think Camier should have got more of a mention for his efforts fighting through the pack while feeling like utter shit, but as for Toseland, oh dear. I got some grief on this site for saying he's past it but I really think he is. Melandri and Laverty hopping on the Yamaha and running at the front only makes him look worse. He's one rider who I really want to do well so its a shame, but it'll be Mr Lowes who I'll be watching closely this year. Stay safe.

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Spengler

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Spengler says:

JT

What spec machines are JT and Badovini on? Are they last year's works bikes?

On to the important subject of Melandri's other half... Enter Manuela Raffaetà in to your favourite search engine.

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