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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati to roll out radical new bike in Assen

Ducati has confirmed it will roll out a radical new bike for Valentino Rossi in Assen this weekend called the GP11.1 The bike includes the current 800cc engine fitted in a chassis that Ducati has been working on for the new GP12 1000cc bike ahead of next season. It also features a new gearbox called the DST – Ducati Seamless Transmission...

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leemuz

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leemuz says:

Assen

If you go to Assen take the A7 over the afsluitdijk   a 20 odd mile stretch of road with water either side

It's nut's...a bit longer but a more scenic view especially if you go on the bike

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

... & take a brolly... it's gonna waz it down!

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leemuz

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leemuz says:

ha

 

Good to know its not just us brits that get p**s wet through then...lol...

i was like a drowned rat...

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leemuz

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leemuz says:

plus

Three inch of water in my tent when i got back to it...  :-(

Spose it all adds to the fun...

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davevr46

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davevr46 says:

crafty..

very crafty move in  many ways from ducati...

 

basically rossi is going to use next years bike with an engine that has smaller bores....., so this means all the setups from supsension etc and other stuff they setup for the tracks will apply to next years bike too, so intheory rossi will already have a setup for next year at most of the tracks... no one else will becuase they have never used there bike there before....

so in the fp's and qp rossi can concertate on going as fast as possible instead of finding good setups. very clever.

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Fuller46

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Fuller46 says:

stoners development skills are shite

The ducati engineers were always asking Casey to evaluate certain new parts and help them with development but Casey's ideology was that he can ride it as it is, why change anything. Ducati have spent as awful lot of money in bringing Rossi and all his crew to their factory. Which factory on the grid would not try to reap the rewards of all those millions already spent? And after spending all those millions, why give him a bike he can only ride to mid pack places or be gifted podiums by crashes and ride throughs? If honda left the development of next years bike to Casey, I don't think we'd be seeing Honda anywhere near as dominant as this season. He is an amazing talent, but only a raw talent and his natural ability is what makes him fast today. If Rossi turns the ducati round and by the end of the year the pramac boys and Hector and all looking for top 10's, It only goes to show that Stoner cannot develop a bike but ride one to its limits whatever the situation.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

And so what

Honda have hired Stoner to win races and the title for them

That's what he's doing

Whether he can develop a bike none of us know, but as long as Honda have someone in the camp who can it doesn't matter.

If he is doing what he is hired to do and winning for them, I think they'll be happy, regardless of the Rossi vs Stoner tantrums on here

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Crafty?... necessary...

Davevr46 - "basically rossi is going to use next years bike with an engine that has smaller bores....., so this means all the setups from supsension etc and other stuff they setup for the tracks will apply to next years bike too, so intheory rossi will already have a setup for next year at most of the tracks... no one else will becuase they have never used there bike there before...."

Ducati was developing a whole new bike for 2012... they had to 'cos it clearly wasn't working... & when Rossi proved the point they rushed it forward to become the 11.1... Honda already have a package that works... their 2012 is nowhere near as different as Ducati's... so when it comes to 2012 they'll all have to adjust for the power/weight of the new engine... it's just that Honda (& the other manufacturers probably) have 2 year's worth of data with virtually the same set up... Ducati only have 12 rounds to get theirs up to speed & then they've got to make their adjustments for the 1000cc &, to cap it all, will run the 1st 6 rounds of 2012 with no data using the new chassis!

Casey Stoner... "In general, we haven't changed too much from the set up we have on the 800cc right now and the feeling is very similar, so it's pretty good."

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2011/May/may18110-casey-stoner-makes-honda-1000cc-debut/

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slit

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slit says:

Hedgehog5

exactly. As pointed out well inan article I read somewhere.... if ducatie were using the time to develop the GP12 to actually develop the GP11, they would be in a lot of shit for next year. Time to develop GP12= official riders can test the prototype. VR and NH were indeed testing the the GP12 and probably said 'wow this is good shit nothing compared with the monkey we are riding now, any chance we can start using this year?' Duke 'yeah let's get our TEST riders to test the hybrid'. filippo Preziosi specifically got dorna to take measurements of the motors each and every time a rider was testing so that it was clear VR and NH were always and only on the 1000cc. Whereas guareschi and battaini were testing the 800 with the gp12 frame. It is already a few weeks taht preziosi made clear VR would be testing new material for this year at RACE WEEKENDS: i.e. they are fucking sacrifying qualy time to test new parts and are aware they will probably have to wait some more races to really start gettng results. So where the fuck is the problem with that, can any fucking stoner fan tell me?

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slit

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slit says:

preziosi

apparently also told rossi

"vale, you know we know nothing about this new frame and have no data or ideas of setups and if we test it during races we may be doing even worse than with the GP11 frame for some time? Sean Faley, who's one of your greatest fans and has 3 posters of you will be talking shit big time about you on MCN and I believe he will also start saying that even hayden is better than you if nicky in this meantime does better than you with the old frame, are you prepared for that, this is big shit you know?"

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