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Steve Farrell  says:

Learners told: ‘Wear bike kit or test will be cancelled’

Learner motorcyclists not in proper bike kit including boots and gloves face being turned away from their test. The Driving Standards Agency has told examiners they can turn away candidates not ‘appropriately’ dressed in at least heavy denim. Examples of kit deemed inappropriate include skiing gloves, ripped jeans and trainers. A sign in test centres tells examiners: ‘From 1 July, you may...

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MarcusMarsh

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MarcusMarsh says:

Safety kit

When I started riding in the late 70's faded jeans and trainers (white, of course!) WERE safety kit.  :lol::lol::lol:

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davdamos

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davdamos says:

I've never owned a bike yet, haven't been able to afford one, but I do have a helmet, gloves and jacket already. My missus always asks why bother buying the clothes when you can't ride? Well that's a good thing to show her, and I can get some boots and pants without her moaning now :-)

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Captain Hook

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Captain Hook says:

VAT

The only thing that should be required is the same as what is required by law, namely a Helmet.

If that isn't considered suitable, then the law should be changed to include Boots, Gloves and what ever else is thought as necessary PPE and those items would all then be placed in the zero rated VAT category in the same way helmets are.

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CaNsA

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CaNsA says:

There is no mention of helmets on that list.....

So turn up for your Mod 1 wearing all the proper gear except a lid and then argue the toss.

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luken82

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luken82 says:

@CaNsA Does there need to be? After all it's a legal requirement. You can call me a softie but the first place I went to after buying a bike was a motorcycle shop (after getting CBT) - I went to buy a jacket, trousers, boots and gloves. And a plenty of body armour to go with them.

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jahagon

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jahagon says:

Know the risks!

Riding without protective gear is one's own choice. Often it's too expensive for younger riders like me. However, I've seen the results of a crash without gloves - not a sight I want to see again. Please, if nothing else, wear some proper gloves! :)

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SatNavSteve

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SatNavSteve says:

Better safe than sorry!

I'm not in favour of legislation but people should be taught what to wear when they learn to ride and know what it means to be safe as possible. Learners should be encouraged to have the right clothing at the time of the test and if they decide to dress down afterwards and have an accident, they can't say they were'nt warned. I've seen people wearing the right gear in the past walk away from an accident rather than be carried away. Just watch Moto GP or any Superbikes for examples.

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Tim158

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Tim158 says:

Sounds fair

Surprisingly, MCN have made it sound quite reasonable. Not what I'v come to expect at all. I can imagine that instructors might feel some responsibility for the people they take out, and that they'd like them to be wearing more than a shell suit (shell suits! LOL!). The way this is worded makes it sound like giving the examiner the right to turn somebody down if they're not suitably dressed rather than a ruling that everybody must be fully clothed in specialist items.

On a related but irrelevant note, I passed my test last Thursday. The examiner followed me out in a big old Beemer. I say in, it was one of those they do with 4 wheels. I wasn't expecting that.

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fryatuck

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fryatuck says:

should be law

Okay not sure about day-glow vests, I have tried that one, I almost got hit by a car driver When I asked if she hadn't seen me, She said that she had seen the day-glow jacket but she thought it was someone working on the road. I think Dressed in at least denim (£5 Tesco or Primark)is not that hard. I was at the garage last week filling up. When a guy on a R1 turned up wearing a pair of cotton 3/4 length shorts a vest top and a pair of flip-flops. Why shouldn't they change the law to say that bike gear should be warn. If people can't afford to buy safety gear why are they learning to ride?

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

The reason

the driving test is so hard (whilst being so entirely useless) is the strict adherence to the law. If you commit a minor error caused entirely by someone else you are penalised. There is barely any qualitative assessment, just quantitative so an unfit driver may pass whilst a perfectly fit driver screwed over by someone else may fail. They demand strict adherence to the law, not the application of common sense during the test and yet whilst the law states only a helmet is required, they feel they can now change the goal posts. If I ever get stopped and told to put on a hivi, I'll be taking my perfectly adequate, sensible gear off, putting it in the box and riding off wearing a helmet. There are plenty of bigger issues than this. Either make it law or stop being prats and tackle criminals. It's a personal decision and whilst I believe in wearing kit, I also believe they have an obligation and a right purely to provide information, not interfere and be obstructive in putting forth what it, at the end of the day, an opinion - it just happens to be the opinion of those in authority over their own little pathetic patch. Until it is law, it is merely an opinion - the problem is that the people who hold these opinions are not only able to shout louder, they are able to make you pay until you do it THEIR WAY. The police shouldn't be able to pull you to talk hivis - yeh by all means park up at cafes and so on but get in my way and you'll find the stopwatch starts and I spend the ten minutes you can stop me for under the human rights laws taking more and more kit off. The DVLA shouldn't be able to stop you doing your test if you are complying with the requirements the law sets out for you to ride on the road as it is not legislation, it is opinion and it should not be allowed to cost people money.

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