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John Westlake  says:

First ride: Vyrus Moto2 bike

Vyrus are testing their new Moto2 bike at Misano, so Senior Road Tester Michael Neeves has joined the Italian firm to ride the innovative bike on track. Here are his first impressions: 'This is one of the most unconventional Moto 2 machines made so far. It has a carbon fibre monocoque chassis, hub centre steering and a Formula One style rear...

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JacquesWood

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JacquesWood says:

no carbon fibre

The current Moto2 regs don't allow carbon fibre frames/chassis in order to keep costs down, I haven't heard this rule changing. Does the Spanish Moto2 series allow for it? otherwise how is it going to race?

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boybilly1967

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boybilly1967 says:

Nice to see some innovation, instead of the usual Alloy beam frames that abound.

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LaughingGas

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LaughingGas says:

Interesting

Interesting. I'd have thought hub centre steering would make the bike heavier and less responsive, but they've done their home work so lets hope they prove everyone wrong.

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ACEEDSTORM

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ACEEDSTORM says:

Honda tried this in the '80's with the NSR500 & failed to make it work properly so this is another pie in the sky idea.The conventional fork may not be perfect but this is not the answer.

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snave

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snave says:

HCS

...is not the solution by and of itself, although it brings substantial advnatage to the separation of braking and suspension forces - and that's a matter of fact. The main reason that HCS isn't used more is because of the stupid conservatism of the race teams, riders and rules which simply don't permit the application of the advantages in a way that maximises the benefits.

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liamvasquez

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liamvasquez says:

It may not be a solution but it looks great and seen that all the motorcyles in the Moto2 pit look all the same it will bring some great lookin change to it

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DoomedDog

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DoomedDog says:

Alto Performance

These guys did alright using a Vyrus derived race bike - www.altoracing.co.uk/Racing/index.html

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racinjetford

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racinjetford says:

@ JaquesWood - Carbon

Maybe they mispoke, because there looks to be machined aluminum "trellis"-like arches attaching front and rear suspensions under engine cases. It looks like the rider subframe(s) front and rear would be the monocoque designs...

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eltomo

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eltomo says:

HCS

less mass, easy to alter geometry without chaing the wheel base, lower steering inertia, less unsprung wieght than conventional forks, less prone to stiction er shit i could go on.....fair play, tele forks have the advantage of many years of non stop development from people like ohlins and WP etc.......hcs has not, its also easier to produce and more rigid

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racinjetford

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racinjetford says:

the trick

The trick to these suspensions might be engineering in some front end dive to help riders load the front tire. With car-style anti-dive geometry it might be hard for riders to adapt or find front grip on corner entry. So engineering will be important, but also an open mind for technicians trying to figure out how to set this thing up. Couldnt they use softer springs and damping up front to help load it and absorb bumps though if it doesn't dive like a fork? Will this design give more rear weight/grip on corner entry and allow the riders to use all that extra engine braking they have specifically on these 4 stroke 600's? Notice that the Moto2 riders often slide the rear into corners under heavy braking (because of engine braking). Could this give the Vyrus rider a serious advantage in the current Moto2 class? I'd love to hear the designers' ideas here, or discuss with anyone who has opinions or ideas on this whole suspension concept in the current class (pros vs. cons)...

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