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Matthew Birt  says:

Valentino Rossi didn’t underestimate Ducati challenge

Valentino Rossi didn't underestimate the size of the challenge to win MotoGP races at Ducati. But Ducati did underestimate the extent to which rivals Honda would improve in 2011, according to Rossi’s Aussie crew chief Jerry Burgess. Rossi has struggled to make a major impact at Ducati since he quit Yamaha at the end of 2010 and has managed just one podium...

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Mar 11

Posts: 37

WLF2001 says:


Thanks for the link, a very interesting article. I think a few people could do with giving it a read before they make comments that seem to have no basis whatsoever.

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Feb 11

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davevr46 says:

yes, because silverstone was a track he was still learning...

+ he did really bad.


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Apr 11

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Bultoboy says:

But does that article really say anything that hasn't already been said? There are no new revelations or information.

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Mar 09

Posts: 107

bikemad123 says:


valentino rossi at gresini honda its got my vote! will be awesome watching him beat stoner on the factory machine and we will be able to see some proper racing again! happy days :) !!!!!

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Jun 09

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maryrichie3 says:


I dont think Valentino and Jerry have any more to prove,Back in the end of the Honda/Rossi era no-one could imagine what the duo were about to achive with the Yamaha.Back then they could go testing far more than nowadays, the race weekends are there testing now with no chance of a win

Bring back track time for good racing as the teams dragging behind can get the chance to improve the bikes,Rossi will come good again and other riders on Ducatis will benifit also,yhe man is a bike genius and has proved it,is there another rider on the grid a team would rather have as a development rider?

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Jun 11

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PaceyCasey says:

''valentino rossi at gresini honda its got my vote! will be awesome watching him beat stoner on the factory machine and we will be able to see some proper racing again! happy days :) !!!!!''

It won't happen bud............................................not the Gresini move (wishful thinking) or beating Casey on the works bike (wishful thinking x2). Sorry to piss on ya bonfire.

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Jun 10

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weskit says:

yeah, ducati must be thrilled

12 million euros for a development rider. They could have got someone like Shinichi Itoh for 1/100th of that.

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Jul 08

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BMEP says:

The motomatters link – short version

I've copied some text for you to read, it is bits chopped out of a section of text

The answer to that question is to be found in the underlying cause of the MotoGP machine's problems: the tires. The World Superbike series use Pirellis as the spec tire, and the Pirellis are a completely different beast. The construction of the Pirellis is much less stiff, making generating heat in the tires a much simpler task. With a front that sticks and provides feedback, the 1198 responds perfectly

The Bridgestones, on the other hand, have an incredibly stiff carcass

The L4 being used by Ducati is a prime candidate for the Desmosedici's inability to get the front Bridgestone tires up to temperature.

With data from three Japanese factories using a conventional aluminium chassis and an engine sitting taller and further forward in the frame than the Ducati, the Desmosedici's unconventional design has become less suited to the Bridgestones.

This also underlines exactly how important tires have become since the introduction of the single tire rule. By limiting the design and construction of the available tires to just two compounds (soon to be three compounds, but still), the room to modify the behavior of the bikes using the tires has completely disappeared.

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Aug 11

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@PaseyCasey ''It won't happen bud............................................not the Gresini move (wishful thinking) or beating Casey on the works bike (wishful thinking x2). Sorry to piss on ya bonfire.'' I agree with you that Rossi won't move to Gresini, but no doubt that he will whoop Caseys ass when he's on a Honda, it doesn't even matter if it is Satellite Honda he still gonna do it. Sorry...:)

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Jun 11

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Smackbum says:

IF ... THEN ... ELSE

It's pointless arguing that A would beat B if they were on the same bike, because it never happens.  Even when riders are in the same team there are setup differences (and sometimes one rider has favoured status) which ensures they are never truly identical.

That said, you first look within a team to find which rider has the edge.  On that basis Jorge is the #1 Yamaha rider (quite comfortably), Casey is the #1 Honda rider (very comfortably, but with help from Marco), and Valentino is the #1 Ducati rider (consistency pays).  You can surmise that on equal (and neutral) machinery they would probably have some good battles (like Jorge and Valentino last year), but to say that one rider would wipe the floor with the others is just the beer talking out someone's arse.

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