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too late?

Will join the Facebook group and hope this makes a difference, but a demo on the day of the vote is way too late, they will already know how they are going to vote.

Can you tell me exactly where it says in the proposal that:

Tuning will become impossible and even home-maintenance severely hampered under proposals to make bikes impossible to modify.

You do know it's illegal to stage demonstrations in Brussels while the parliament is sitting?

And have you actually read the proposals? Just where does it say home servicing will be banned, or "so-called onboard diagnostics" will detect non standard parts?

If you're going to organise a protest you should at least try to get the facts straight!

what the proposals actually say

...can be found here:

www.ipex.eu/IPEXL-WEB/dossier/files/download/082dbcc530b1bf490130bc628e693db7.do

The anti-tampering stuff is in article 18 on page 31.

What it says is that bikes will have to be fitted with "designated measures" designed to prevent any modification to increase performance or circumvent emission controls.

I think that makes it pretty clear that the intention is to make tuning impossible.  The "designated measures" won't be defined in the primary legislation; they are to be subsequently defined by the Commission as they see fit.

The proposals also require the fitment of on-board diagnostics that can monitor emissions and the performance of vehicle systems (article 19).  So it's hardly a great leap to conclude that the on-board diagnostics are likely to form part of the "designated measures" for article 18.

One positive thing that I haven't seen mentioned so far - the proposals include the removal of the French 100bhp limit.

@ Andy L

What the proposal says:

L-category vehicles shall be equipped with designated measures to prevent tampering of a vehicle's powertrain, to be laid down in a delegated act by means of a series of technical requirements and specifications with the aim:

(a) to prevent modifications that may prejudice safety, in particular by increasing vehicle performance through tampering with the powertrain in order to increase the maximum torque and/ or power and/or maximum designed vehicle speed as declared by the manufacturer of a vehicle upon type-approval, and/or

(b) to prevent damage to the environment.

However yes the problem is the delegated acts, you say  "they are to be subsequently defined by the Commission as they see fit. " however there are amemends by MEPs to the proposal so that the EU Parliament has scrutiny on what the EU Commission is doing.

But still a problem as the whole process would need constant monitoring so that they dont slip anything in.

However the DfT have a consultation at http://www.dft.gov.uk/consultations/dft-2011-26 and read this

http://www.righttoride.eu/regulationdocuments/UK_Government_Briefing_on_Two_and_Three_Wheeled_Vehicle_090911.doc

You can ride in demos and sign petitions and demand that we should leave the EU - all good stuff.

But the proposals are here right now and being discussed and there is an oportunity to respond.