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trevor.cummings

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DAY TIME MOT? MYTH OR REAL

day time mot's?

I've just bought a road/track bike, full race fairings, no lights, runs perfectly and has v5 tax & tested with an mot certificate.

Whats the current law on riding this on the road in UK & is it different for mainland europe.

Many thanks TC

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RougharseRacing

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DAY TIME MOT? MYTH OR REAL

There is only one MOT test and only one type of certificate, but you can MOT bikes and or cars for that matter without lights. You will get an advisory note to say that it has no lights and of course you can't ride the bike at night or during seriously reduced visibility.
There are a lot of myths surrounding this subject and some will incorrectly suggest that you need a brake light, although you might live longer if you fit one.
Be prepared for a whole lot of attention from Plod though as most don't know the more obscure aspects of the law likewise many MOT testers.

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trevor.cummings

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MOT's

Many many thanks for clearing that up.

I will fit a brake light, thanks!

TC

 

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Andy_L

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Andy_L says:

Attention from plod

A few years ago on one of those "plods on camera" type shows, there was an incident where they pulled over a guy on a Ducati, all papers in order including MOT, but it had no lights.  Officer insisted bike had to have lights.  Made the biker wait while another officer came out from the station with the relevant law book, which they both spent some time poring over, before eventually agreeing that it was in fact OK to have no lights during the day.  By which time it had got dark, and the poor rider had to get someone with a van out to recover the bike
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bmwgs

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bmwgs says:

all lights or no lights

my trail bike has been mot with out lights and i have never been stoped (yet)
you just need road legal tires a working horn, number plate and a red reflector fitted at the back and it will be fine.
and its all lights or no lights. so brake light needs to be fitted after the mot,

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RougharseRacing

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reflectors and brake lights

bmwgs, you are mistaken about the reflector, the law states that NO LAMP OR REFLECTOR need be fitted if there are no font and rear position lights. 

As for the brake light, there is no reason why you can't fit one at the time of test as the ALL OR NOTHING only counts if you have front and rear position lamps.
If you do fit a brake light then it must meet the current regulations, so I presume that this means actuated by both the front and rear brakes on modern bikes.
this is the manual that MOT testers are meant to refer to if they are unsure, but many testers appear to guess instead. 
The lighting regulations are at  http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/made 
this is where the CPS will look if confused Plod tickets you, the relevant bit is Section 4(3)(a). :blink:

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