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Matthew Birt  says:

Casey Stoner happy to silence Rossi and Burgess criticism

Casey Stoner has said his domination of the 2011 MotoGP world championship was made sweeter after the criticism he faced from Valentino Rossi and Jerry Burgess when he was riding for Ducati. Stoner won 10 races last season to clinch his second MotoGP world title as he delivered Honda’s first premier class world title since 2006. While the 26-year-old was enjoying unrivalled...

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

lap time and race time bollocks

You only have to look at the performance of Rossi and Stoner and the difference in speed between them and the other Ducatis ridden by their team mates and satellite riders to see who rode the Ducati fastest.

In 4 years at Ducati only Hayden got close to Stoner and only about 4 times.

How close was Hayden to Rossi this year as well as the satellite riders?

No 'Rossi was the development mule' bullshit or it was 'Rossi's first season on a strange bike' garbage please. He flopped big time.

It was also Stoner's first time on a conventional framed full factory bike. He didn't.

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Bootlegger

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Bootlegger says:

Gambling

Suffice it to say that if you have hard earned cash laid down,it always adds to the adrenalin rush of the race on any Sunday apart from Assen (Saturday). Meridians excused. Casey at 2.5,Jorge at 3.5,Dani about 4.5 and Ben at 8.5. Thats how I've got them hooked up for 2012. Holding thumbs big time for Ben and I believe its a thinking mans bet for the title. The more I review 2011,the more confident I am about the silent assassin #11 for 2012. Much as I am a huge fan of Casey and Jorge and would be as happy as a pig in shit if either won 2012, I've just got a gut feel 2012 will be at least equal chance race in and race out with Ben.

I dunno how much you have locked down on Rossi and for what Wosi,but I hope its worth the layout.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Me and 3 pals watch the races. My rider is ......obvious, Paul has JL, Mike has Ben and L'il John has Vale. We have a fiver per race and whoever crosses the line first takes the dosh, and 20quid to whoever finishes highest in the standings. 2011 was a fruitful year and hopefully 2012 will be just as rewarding ;)

Who needs bookies when you have daft mates lol.

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Bootlegger

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Bootlegger says:

Top 3

Plausible Wosi, but I reckon 2012 would have to encompass catastrophe for HRC and Yamaha for a Rossi top 3 to come to fruition.

I'm of the opinion that Rossi's 2012 will be much like Stoner's 2008...a step backwards. In Stoner's case 1st to 2nd. In Rossi's case 7th to 8th,but hey,good you have faith.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Top 4 will be a mix of Stoner, Ben, Dani and JL. Not sure in what order though. Dani could well have a good season as his luck has to turn one-day. Ben on a 'thou', i agree with 'Wosi', will have a chance if he can get in the groove quicker than previous seasons. JL/Casey  will be as fast as ever.

I can't see Flo breaking into this group.  

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

I like your thought of the Top Four guys for next season love to see Ben up there all he needs to work on his starts something which proved costly in 2011 and hopefully he has luck on his side too for 2012.

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revnev7

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revnev7 says:

LEECHO

         Would you like my N.I.number as well? I guess a little background wouldn`t hurt.My 1st practice day , {there were no trackday`s},was at a freezing snetter`s ,when it was fast. 4 of us were there that day,the great Bazza,a bloke called Andy Trott ,on the fastest seeley commando,i`ve ever seen,me and a Mr S. Parish. I was on the 1st P.Smart 750ss Duke raced in Blighty.       And, as for Bull,never been my thing  mate.If I crashed,I would tell my pit crew,if I lost the backend,I would not say ,the front let go,[Australia 2011},especially if it`s on camera!

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2vforeva

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2vforeva says:

Spies bad starts??


YamahaGYTR

"I like your thought of the Top Four guys for next season love to see Ben up there all he needs to work on his starts something which proved costly in 2011 and hopefully he has luck on his side too for 2012."

Are Bens bad starts due to his size/weight? Pedrosa is usually first to turn 1  cause he weights nothing. Stoner, Lorenzo can be somewhere 2nd and 3rd. They look to weight about the same. Poor Ben looks to be at a distinct disadvantage due to his mass.

I have the answer. Bring back push starts! That will make the bikes easy to push start to. Saving us from hearing Stoner whinge about more people wanting to push Rossi's rear than his. Of course this will totally srcew Pedrosa, he can not even get on the bike without a ladder.

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Yamaha3358

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Yamaha3358 says:

Pedrosa

Sure he's an alien ..

He can't really be an outsider to the 'alien' status. How often do we see him battling with Spies, Dovi, Bautista? granted he has struggled this year but all the factors have played their parts and he's been unlucky at times. To me an 'alien', is someone who is on the podium consistently every weekend but is also capable of battling for wins every now and again. If someone gets a win in a season then fairplay, but it doesn't really apply alien status. Consistency is key, along with raw pace.

Two rides that stand out for me from Pedrosa, are when he was leading in the wet by a country mile in Germany(2008) only to lose the front at turn 1. This was impressive becasue at the end of the 06 season he was rolling around in 15th place when it was slightly raining at Philip Island. He didn't get on with the rain(which was a know weak point) but in less than 2 seasons was showing everyone the way around a soaked track. The other was Le Mans 2009. Who remembers him chasing down Dovi in the last 10 laps ? exciting stuff and great to watch as he was seriously pushing it.

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Yamaha3358

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Yamaha3358 says:

I do agree about there being just 3 aliens though.

Stoner. Lorenzo. Pedrosa.

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