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Matthew Birt  says:

1000cc switch to help Ben Spies

Yamaha expects the introduction of the new 1000cc MotoGP class to help American rider Ben Spies mount a challenge for more victories in 2012. The Texan’s factory Yamaha team boss Massimo Meregalli believes the style required to ride the new generation 1000s will favour Spies, who won the World Superbike title for the Japanese factory back in 2009. Although Spies collected his...

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

Hey Chris go and buy last seasons MotoGP season review that will tell you about the bikes this is where I find all the info from and who the feck is th is Elbow dude ?

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twistedplanet

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He is a talented rider no doubt but at the pointy end it seems its more about the electronics package nowadays, not to mention if they have an injury their season is phuked... If they want close racing I reckon they'll need to standardise some of the technology. Not saying Moto2 style but they could have a limit on the RPM (saves engines, cuts cost) and same electronics (set traction control to all, etc). They have been doing this in V8 supercars in OZ for over a decade and it works!

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chrisg011

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chrisg011 says:

Elbowz

oh come on fella, either you have a serious problem or your 'just' deluded....

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ratchetman

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ratchetman says:

YAMAHA GTYR

ALL I SAID IS THAT THE YAMAHA IS AN AVERAGE BIKE COMPARED TO THE HONDA BUT AGAINST THE DUCATI ITS A ROCKETSHIP  

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CosherB

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CosherB says:

oh come on elbowz, comments like "The M1 aint an average bike it is the most finely developed bike in the paddock" are complete clap-trap.  it may still be a fine handling bike, but the Honda had it licked last year.  as Dovi got 52 points more than Spies, surely you'd have us believe that the RCV must have had warp-factor speed compared to the Yam?

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

but the Honda had it licked last year. as Dovi got 52 points more than Spies,

No use cherry picking statistics to suit your own argument. They fall flat when Lorenzo missed the last 3 races with injury and still finished way in front of Dovi who was riding the 'bike that had the Yamaha licked'. Pedrosa too. There is no factual basis for saying Lorenzo over-rode the bike's capabilities either - who said so, who's to judge? Both the Honda and Yamaha have their respective strong and weak points and overall there is probably little between them across all tracks.

The comparison you have to make is between Spies and Lorenzo. Reaistically Spies was nowhere near him for most of the season, also, got boxed in a good few times in the first couple of turns and took an age to get past riders you would have expected him to pass quickly. By then the gap to the front was too great. It happened too often. You can be fairly sure that Lorenzo and Stoner in the same situation would have got though quicker.

Realistically, you'd have to say that Stoner, Lorenzo and Pedrosa are going to generally hit the front and Spies is going to have a hard time getting on the podium against those three, injuries and DNFs excepted. As team boss you'd have to be looking for Lorenzo as the championship contender with Spies as the spoiler, maybe nicking the odd podium position and relieving the Honda riders of a few points here and there. No-one on a satellite bike should beat him so he should at worst, be 4th consistently unless Ducati have their bike sorted. Then expect Rossi and hopefully Hayden to be in there too. If they are, he could be in for another tough season.

The team bosses are interested in one thing only - results. If they don't come in season number 2, he'll be gone and that would be a shame.

 

 

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

If Spies can produce the same sort of ride like he did at Valencia then there is no means he will save his ride. I mean did the other two so called aliens push Stoner so close did they feck and there you have a non alien just missing out by 0.015 seconds whats the excuses gonna be if Ben ends finishing ahead of Pedrosa or even taking the title.

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Too much 'bitty'!

Gotta admit that even though he seems like a decent and respectful bloke, he often comes across as a bit of a pussy.

He needs to have everything just right and a bit of poor luck from the others to be at the front. Good, yeah but not quite there. If he got off the tit for a while, who knows what he might achieve.

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Yam GTYR

IF...

Therein lies the problem. He has speed, no question, the problem is consistency and that is what was lacking in a lot of races last year. He had almost the same type of season on the factory team bike as on the Tech 3 bike.

Your first line says what most people are saying. The speed is there but he needs to be a regular podium chaser this year to keep the ride. One win and one race in which he finished 0.015s behind the winner isn't good enough - and in reality he didn't push Stoner in that race, he was well behind until the conditions changed. I don't mean he fluked the result as he rode very well from that point, but, up until that point where was he? Way behind. And Stoner still came back and nicked it.

He needs to be with them from the start and he needs to do it in the first few races, otherwise he could be in for another tough season with the sword of Damocles hanging over him.

I hope not but he needs consistent results this year to save his ride.

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

You're right about consistency the one race what disappointed me the most was Mugello 2nd place in qualifying end result 4th even though its 13 points that race just pissed me off was the result itself even though it was a good battle with the late Simoncelli I expected more at least to challenge for the podium at least but early mistakes put paid to that.

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