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Steve Farrell  says:

IAM's 'unfair' claims over bike safety

The Institute of Advanced Motorists has been accused of unfairly focussing on motorcyclists with claims of rising casualties. An IAM release states that 18 motorcyclists were killed or seriously injured a day from July to September 2011, up 2% on the year before. The release says motorcycle casualties remained 'stagnant' compared to figures for cars and calls on police and government...

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Aug 02

Posts: 2720

spondonste says:


A few years ago whilst on my way to work the car in front meanderred to the side of the road, hit the curb, mounted it and then slew back on to the road. The driver was dosing off at the wheel. In his car he didn't have an accident and fortunately nobody else was about. On a bike he would have needed a hospital.


Cars make people less observant and less careful. This doesn't make for safer roads. Cars are now safer to crash in and more junctions have lights on them so of course car occupancy injury figures will go down. This doesn't however mean that the roads are being made safer. The number of people as a whole being killed or injured hasn't decreased that much so it seems car drivers are killing more people around them than they used to do.


Maybe some bikers should hire a tank and smash in to loads of other vehicles. They can then claim that their vehicle is safe and all other vehicles should be removed from the road.

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Sep 09

Posts: 846

Rogerborg says:

>"Maybe some bikers should hire a tank and smash in to loads of other vehicles"

Your wish is YouTube's command.

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Mar 08

Posts: 72

sallison30 says:

There is no doubt a government stooge in the IAM. The government hates bikes because in the main we're free thinkers and don't conform robot style. Very dangerous to the dictatorial modern government. So, the idea is to use propaganda (aka Lies!) to turn public opinion against bikes and bikers

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Sep 02

Posts: 2

binitman says:

IAM's comments

 As usual stastistics are being manipulated to say what they want. Taken in isolation they may be right about the number of casualties, but how were these accidents caused and by whom? Was it as black and white as they make out and we are all incapable of controlling these supposedly dangerous machines and we all need extra training.

 Oh hang on a minute don't the IAM do training and wouldn't they benifit from legislation to make us all take extra training, or am I being overly suspicious about their motives in picking out these particular stats?

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Nov 10

Posts: 18

Hwystr says:

Car drivers are now lulled into a sense of security with modern safety features like airbags, seatbelts, ABS, stability control etc.  Modern cars also perform a lot better than they used to.  However, modern car drivers have the same (if not lower) performance they have always had and are now travelling much faster than previously possible.

The result is car drivers are mowing down pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists at an alarming rate.  The IAM needs to address the real cause.  There is a reason pedestrian and bicycle accidents are increasing and it has nothing to do with motorcyclists.  The same cause (stupid careless car driving) is directly responsible for the majority of motorcycle accidents. If you want to see evidence of this ride a bicycle some time IAM twits! are a total farce!

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Feb 05

Posts: 223

Bob_1 says:

Consider this...

We all know the other statistic which tells us that the majority of motorcycle accidents are caused by car drivers. Did the IAM mention this? 

Did they mention that education of car drivers on bike awareness is the the one thing which will improve our chances of staying alive more than anything else? 

Did they mention that pontificating about things road-related is what they do to justify their existence? 

Did they mention that while car drivers and passengers can be cocooned in an airbag-protected cage motorcycle riders cannot. 

Did they take a long-term view of the available statistics? 

I think not. All very un-scientific IAM, nought-out-of-ten, please try harder.

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Apr 10

Posts: 198

arryace says:

positive comments

The government needs to ensure that education campaigns targeting motorcycling continue and funding is made available for local initiatives. The police and councils must continue to work together to improve high risk routes, encourage post test training and target bad riding behaviour through innovative enforcement techniques.

the way i read it the IAM are spot on we do want our Government to continue investment in motorcycle safety, lots of you saying 'but it's not our fault' or 'it's the other drivers' that won't stop it hurting when you are hit by one of them,

It's up to us to be better than them and stay alive.

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Sep 05

Posts: 8

daytona106 says:

car driver training & testing

I got e-mailed just  yesterday,

Bennetts are pushing an on-line petition to call 'biker awareness' to be part of new car driver training and testing.

Go sign up!

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Fly by night


Sep 07

Posts: 225

Fly by night says:

Safety first

I suspect the reason why cars are getting safer is because less people can afford to drive them so less are on the road.


However I also suspect the reason why cycle deaths and injuries are on the up is because these very same people that can't afford to drive their cars anymore simply turn to riding bycicles they don't realise just how much danger their bad road skills put them under and set about riding like they would drive their cars.


It's just as well they turn to cycles because if they had gone on to motorcycles the accident rate for motorcycles would be through the roof.


So there is one good thing at least to be said for more expensive riding, it keeps the idiot car drivers looking for cheep transport off motorcycles.

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Feb 10

Posts: 159

ducatigav says:

iam well think the top gear team sum my thoughts up on them last sunday

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