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jimmywiz

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jimmywiz says:

Are these two things legal or not

1. if a few bikes all stop and we stop the bike on the pavement as the road is bissy - is that ok or nto 


2. is it legal to do a wheelie in a car park 

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soapes

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soapes says:

legal or not

In a word (or two) no and no.

Pavements are for people.

Years ago you could play in car parks, normal road rules apply now though.

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paulderekjohnson

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erm..

Stupid questions answered here. :blink:

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baldspot

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baldspot says:

actually

It's not illegal to do a wheelie anywhere.

The question is whether the police see you and ask whether you are in control of the motorcycle. The usual view is that our not in proper control and so may be charged for driving without due care, or several other offences.

There is no law saying you can't wheelie.

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MarcusMarsh

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MarcusMarsh says:

Legal or not?

Parking on the pavement is not illegal unless you are causing an obstruction.  In which case you could find youself having issues with the local plod. 

There is no specific offence of pulling a wheelie. As Baldspot alluded, most who are done for that particular stunt are done under other offence codes. Usually something like not being in control of the machine or riding without due care and attention. 

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spondonste

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spondonste says:

What about stoppies and rolling stoppies

Has anybody ever been prosecuted by the police for doing a rolling stoppie on the road? Since the front wheel stays in contact with the road and its the one the steerings attached to I'm not sure 'not being in control of the vehicle' could be proven. Not advocating anybody doing this, but was just wondering if anyone has actually been done for this?

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MarcusMarsh

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MarcusMarsh says:

Stoppies

In any prosecution where both wheels of a motorcycle are not in contact with the ground I don't think it would be much of a challenge for the Police to make the case that you were not fully in control of your machine.  Yes, such stunts do take a degree of skill and stunt-riders in particular are very talented individuals. However, it would be (a) very difficult for you to establish that you have the same skill-level and (b) prove that riding with only one wheel in contact with the road would allow you to make appropriate braking or avoidance manoevers should, for example, a car pull out in front of you.

 

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

Parking

Technically the offence is riding on the pavement. You'd have to push the bikes on it and ensure you're not causing an obstruction.


The wheelie is not being in full control of the vehicle which only counts on the public highway. The police would try and section 59 you but if the car park is empty and there's no one to cause distress or annoyance to as well as you not being on the public highway (you have to be driving carelessly which is a road traffic offence and can't be done when off the road) they'd be hard pushed to make it stick when you contested it. Either way you're opening yourself up to trouble from officers who issue section 59s without knowing the law and also would object to the bikes being on the pavement. Park them by the side of the road and make the cars go round - the cars would have no problem.

As for wheelies - the odd one in an empty but not closed off car park is fine as long as plod don't see you as they will make your life hard. Keep doing it and the noise will annoy someone who will complain and plod will make your life hard.

I would like to go down to a car park and practice some emergency stops and some other stuff but you always get some c**t who moans even though it's not disturbing them at all and the fact that cops seem to hand out section 59s in a way that is not appropriate just means you're best not bothering.

Yep, the police are stopping you doing things you have every right to do. It's wankerish.

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jimmywiz

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jimmywiz says:

59

What the feck is a 59 - i hear them being handed out all the time but what are they 

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soapes

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soapes says:

59

A 59 is when you have a man and a woman who is slightly shorter and can't quite....

on a serious note, a section 59 is when someone driving/riding a vehicle on or off a road causes nuisance or inconvinience to other road users or members of public.

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bmwgs

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bmwgs says:

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i park my bike on the pavement all the time and hav never been told off. as long as you are not backing any thing or any one it be fine

 and the cops will do you if ever one of your wheels are off the ground

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