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Matthew Birt  says:

Colin Edwards: CRT pace not dangerously slow

Colin Edwards has denied the gap in performance between the factory prototype machines and new CRT 1000cc projects will be dangerous in the 2012 MotoGP world championship. Several top riders like Casey Stoner, Jorge Lorenzo and Andrea Dovizioso have expressed concerns that the speed and lap time differential between factory bikes and CRT machines is too much and could lead to...

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stavros012008

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does 30 bhp  equal 15mph ? ...read enough articals to get the impression once over a certain speed ..you needed shit loads of brake horse for a few mph ?

 

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

The CRT bikes will be the interesting factor this season in MotoGP it will be a battle between Col and De Puniet for top CRT honours and most likely Randy will come out on top.

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ChrisSYD

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ChrisSYD says:

whats it like to ride a motogp bike......a bmw 1000r is fast as......in WSB trim it would be crazy fast..........take away restrictions and add more power for cry would be very crazy fast....then motogp is a massive step faster again!!!!!

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Wake up!

The BIG issue is the new riders on the slow bikes, I can't see Edwards being a problem on the track when it comes to being lapped, get some perspective please! The thing I find amusing about CRT is how Aprilia had the 250 series in a squirrel grip so tight that Houdini couldn't get out of it, now if Caramello gets his way, they'll do the same with the open class! You can't blame them, to do as good as they have with their bike so far is no mean fkg feat!, however, this could easily see the series in a shithole deeper than we've seen before if it's not managed correctly, and with Ezpeleta and the rest of his maffioso's record, it's not looking good.

btw, don't underestimate ANY of the manufacturers, if the japs wanted to, they could easily build a bike to match the RSV4. Unlike the Eyeties who are happy to blow their bolt with a new fangled model evry 12 months, the orientals are more conservative and aren't charging a squillion dollars for their products and you can bet Wosi's shrivelled left onion that their profit margin is a little better than the Italian makers as well! If you doubt they could do it, you're fkng dreaming!

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ThePornstar

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ThePornstar says:

Give 'em a chance

Something has to be done, and this is a first attempt at it. I think safety wise as long as these so called "rookie" riders are within the required percentage of the pole time then thats good enough. No one (apart from Doohan) used to moan when the works 500's were lapping the privateer 500's back in the day, the the front runners will just have to deal with it, it's called racecraft apparently.

Bring back Biaggi on a sorted CRT Aprilia.......

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Bob Buttamasangy

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How thick are you?

There is no criticism in my post. Simply stating that as usual there will be some new riders to contend with. Unfortunately, some of those riders will be on bikes that are potentially a lot slower than the proto bikes from the factories. For the 'old hands', knowing their situation, this won't be a problem.

The RSV4 is obviously a fantastic bike, if any of the jap manufacturers made a bike with a $5-10K premium over their current line up, I don't doubt it could be a match for the Aprilia. No slagging involved, just stating the different philosophies of the two types of 'business'.

The lease cost of the RS250 of over 1million was what brought about moto2, If the Japs don't want any part of CRT for whatever reason, then it's feasible to see a stranglehold on motoGP by Aprilia as well.

Currently, there is clearly only one CRT bike (brand) that is within reach of some of the factory machines and I can't see that changing in only one season.

Before you criticise, make sure you understand what you've read. Talk about Italians blowing their bolts early!

btw, if your boyfriend was actually capable of riding the ex-winning ducati towards the front, then you know your opinion about CRT would be somewhat different. Bloody hypocrites you Italian loving english, let's hope it's not another 35 years before you can actually celebrate something significant.

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jollyboy

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jollyboy says:

IMHO MotoGP got into it's undersubscribed state due to the rule changes. The final 500cc bikes were, in effect, evolutions of bikes that were twenty years old. Not only that, but the rules were pretty simple so bikes were cheaper to build in real terms. Back in the 500 days a factory could pass on what were pretty much last year's bikes to a satellite team or sell "production" bikes based on the older tech.This just isn't an option when a major rule change only lasts for five years. The change from 990cc to 800cc was such that you couldn't really slap an 800cc engine in your old chassis and likewise with this years increase from 800cc. How many companies can afford to develop a whole new MotoGP bike every five years? The rule makers need to stop dicking about and come up with a simplified set of rules (and no bloody traction control and wheely control) with a guarantee that they will last at least ten years without any major changes. That way the likes of Suzuki, Kawasaki and Aprillia may feel confident that developing a MotoGP bike is not going to be a waste of money. They also need to step away from the idea of trying to make MotoGP more like F1. F1 has always been mostly about small teams rather than big car manufacturers. Remember Cooper, Lotus, Vanwall et al? And even Ferrari started out as a race team that didn't make road cars. MotoGP can't create that sort of infrastructure overnight with CRT and they're kidding themselves if they think they can.

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jollyboy

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jollyboy says:

Just so long as the CRT riders stick to the rules there will be no problem. When the blue flag is out you cease your private battle for 15th place and let the fast guys past. Lapping is not dangerous, it's people who keep racing when they're being lapped that are dangerous. This has been demonstrated often enough in the past in all sorts of racing. I remeber some club races in the eighties where classes had been combined due to small grids. Even though the stewards briefing made the rules clear there were times when the red mist descended and things got absolutely terrifying. If the MotoGP stewards make it clear that there is going to be zero tolerance on this point there shouldn't be any problems.

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Jollyboy, stating the obvious will only confuse the fk out of these tools. They are more interested in making excuses for either:-

a. Stoner winning... or

b.Flossi being a softcock.

So much so, that they would be happy to destroy the history of the series to see things turn around.

fwiw, it's hard to disagree with your comment, although I still believe electronics (of some level) must play a part in the ongoing evolution of motorcycles.

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Spose you host Tupperware parties too?

Are you drinking your missus' Strongbows again Wosi?

Ya bloody poofter! Hahahaha haha hahahaha hahaha ha hahaha...

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