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Hope not..

there's 3 blokes in my circle of bike mates who have got GS1200s, all of them less than 4 yrs old (the bikes, not the mates..), and they've all had numerous issues with them. but they all still love them. good for them - it's their choice! 

But, £1100 for a new clutch on a 3 year old 30,000 mile GS from a dealer? Excuse me?? (Piddies, Long Eaton).

re the post below on a 600 miler locking up, I've had two VFR800s and they both suffered from 'the gearbox problem' (you know, the one Honda tried to bury) and both of them locked up. luckily, both at less than 30mph.

So, no bike, whatever the reputation is imune from faults.

The Explorer is a great bike - I don't think triumph are building a bike that will do what the GS does, because most owners won't ride the Paris Dakar on theirs, however Triumph are going for the Beemers sales, that doesn't mean building an equivalent bike - it means taking the best bits that most riders like, making them better and improving other bits too.

in the long run, it'll spur Beemer to build a better GS, so all you Beemer fans will get better bikes as a result...

Me, I'll buy a 1050 Tiger - I've riden the rest and to be honest the Tiger does what I want it to do, and it does it really well. it's more reliable and durable than some of the jap stuff, and sportier than the GS.

Enjoy the summer you lot - whatever you ride!

Cheers,

Baz

Mattofasto...

"My 02 Speed Triple has 42,000 on the clock now and has only had a failed fan. My Sprint GT is up to 13k now without a sniff of a problem"

Do either of these bikes sell in the sort of numbers the GS does? It's been at the top of the sales charts for some time. You are one rider who's had no problems at reasonable to low mileages... I bet you even with the limited numbers of these bikes on the road I can find people who've had problems with them on lower mileages... more GSs break down 'cos there are more of them on the road & they generally do higher mileages... percentage-wise it would probably be impossible to speculate (info any manufacturer would hold tightly onto).

Took the Triumph out on a demo the other day, mixed emotions, I'm a fan of the GS, as others have said, does everything well and just has that charm!! Riding position on the new Tiger didnt convince me , my 1050 Tiger is comfier, the GS on the other hand has a perfect riding position. The new Tiger has the GS whipped when it comes to the motor though and its got nowt to do with having 135bhp...its all that Torque!! its immense... I've come from sports bikes too, keep the track bike for brain out antics, the GS/Tiger are more than fun in the right hands...

The Explorer is not the only

adventure styled bike to take on BMW, as can be seen from the main article in MCN. The Ducati and Super Tenere have both been around for a couple of years, and I have yet to see more than a handful on the roads. In comparative terms, going by 2 year old BMW's I see on the roads, they are still outselling these others by a considerable margin.

That being said, the Tiger 800 did sell well in its first year, and I was one of the buyers, to go alongside my 2009 GS Adventure. Much as I liked the Tiger, I preferred, overall, the GS.

I traded in my GS for another one last month, a 1 year old bike with 2000 miles. I lost £3000 in value on my 3 year old GS, which I consider to be pretty good.

With no real reason to have two adventure bikes, I decided to trade in the Tiger. My own dealer, who sold me the bike, offered me more than £3200 less than I paid for it, an 11 month old bike. Yes, it had all the bells and whistles, an XC model, and I know that you don't recover the costs of the accessories, but Holy Cheapskates Batman, I felt as if I'd been castrated.

So, buyers of Tiger Explorers be warned. The residual values of BMW's remain high, and the residual value of the Triumph Tiger 800XC is just dreadful.

In the end, I took it to my BMW dealer, and traded it for a 2011 K1300R Dynamic. Cost me a bit more, but I was really, really angry about the offer from my Triumph dealer.

I can't even beleive there is anyone given a choice would buy a Triumph over a BMW.  Triumph bikes seem to give off a cheap vibe and look and they really are kidding themselves if they think they can compete with the quality of BMW. They can build a bike that can do the same thing but thats as far as it goes.