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Matthew Birt  says:

Jerry Burgess: “We’re nowhere near fast enough.”

Valentino Rossi and Ducati endured a dark night in Qatar after the Italian slumped to a dismal 10th place finish to start the new 1000cc MotoGP world championship. The nine-times world champion was a massive 33 seconds behind winner Jorge Lorenzo and at best Rossi could have only hoped for a top six finish with the new GP12 Desmosedici way off...

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hugelean

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hugelean says:

Genius JB how did you work that out?? There are only a couple of items left for JB to say they are not the problem and they are, in alphabetical order, the L shaped engine and Presiozi.. You need to sort the big things before you go looking for 10ths,, New frame and engine needed now. Presiozi saw how much better stoner was on a honda than on a duke he clearly didn't put 2 and 2 together though, so probably still hasn't which means personnel change in the engineering dept..

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bikemad123

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bikemad123 says:

if crutchlow is anything to go by rossi should lease the m1 for next year in his own private team it amazes me how ducati can build the best superbike in the world but cant give rossi a podium challenging bike?

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636darren

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636darren says:

engine config

pragmatism only goes so far in  the ducati management it seems, they have a fundamental issue yet will not address it.

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racingfan99

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racingfan99 says:

Moto2 was a great race as we expect. Good to see a few more bikes at the start of Motogp. Cal did a great job and sadly I think CRT may have to be the way forward for Motogp.


Sounds very much like Vale has admitted he can’t get anything out of the bike no matter what he does with it.  Rossi and the crew probably were guilty of believing the hype that they could win on anything but like so many decent racers before him Vale just has not got to grips with the Ducati and he’s sacrificed part of his career to a bike that only Stoner could ride. No one could accuse VR or the team of not trying with effort and hard work but Rossi & Ducati are simply not the dream combination the media (mainly Italian!) had hoped for. Other riders did better for Ducati last night and I reckon it would be far better for both parties if they parted company now, just hold their hands up and admit it isn’t working out for either of them.
Get Rossi on a competitive bike and let’s have him back racing properly at the front where he belongs for his last couple of seasons. Nobody is naive enough to think it a mere coincidence that when VR and his successful crew moved to the red bike that all of a sudden every one of them just lost all their bike skills at the same time?!
Last year Rossi finished the top Ducati rider but the fact is it was his worst year in World championship racing – 16 consecutive years finishing no lower than 3rd is just remarkable stats and 100+ wins takes one hell of a talent...and that just does not go. Maybe they just don’t like red!?  One thing is for certain, JB & VR deserve a hell of a lot of respect, the phenomenal records  achieved so far in their careers is only done by having so much more knowledge and expertise than any armchair critics who writes on here. Some may think they are world class but actually being world class is a different matter!
 

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bluehaze60

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bluehaze60 says:

Oh well ,I think Valentino will leave Ducati at the end of the year,Italian bike with Italian rider won't work as with fisichella at Ferrari a few years back

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brynhils

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brynhils says:

Anyone wanna Tee-shirt ??

For quick sale: Warehouse full of 'VR46' merchandise. Any reasonable offer accepted. Contact Ducati via the MotoGP helpdesk  :(
 

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Yamaha3358

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Yamaha3358 says:

 

Not quite sure how he can 'moan' about Barbera's overtake...

Compare that to Rossi's overtake on Gibernau in Jerez 04(?) and it looks like kid's stuff.

Quit your whining! (that's what it is when you're not happy about something, right 46fanboys?)

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R6nutter6

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R6nutter6 says:

Weight distribution

Here's a question for you guy's. Is it just me or does the Ducati look like it's sat lower at the rear compared to the front?

Whereas the likes of the Honda's and Yam's look higher at the rear than the front.

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Yamaha3358

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Yamaha3358 says:

They were messing about with weight distribution all through the race weekend, and Nicky Hayden's setup(which was to have more weight on the front) looked to have worked.

I think that, and the hideous tail section made it look very low.

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Strokey

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Strokey says:

Win win or no win for Ducati

Ducati are really in a no win situation as if Rossi goes their only hope is to coax Stoner back (yeah) as Rossi has proved the bike uncompetitive but as much as I'd like to see stoner wrestling that beast around again Ducati realise their only hope is to do whatever it takes to get Rossi winning or exit the premier class, as the good riders will keep well away from the "champion-killer" bike. As much as Honda and yamaha are playing down taking Rossi back, both would be too scared to lose him to the other just in case he resumes Japenese form. Rossi holds all the aces methinks, if he goes MotoGP will plummet, leaving just the geeks to follow the series. As much as Rossi is the better champ imho, maximum respect to Stoner for doing what the greats have failed so miserably in achieving,

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