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Poll: Are car drivers better or worse than they used to be?

There are currently more cars on the road in the UK than there have ever been, but does that mean the standard of driving has improved or declined? Vote in the poll, and don't forget to let us know your thoughts and experiences with the best and worst drivers. The best comments will be published in MCN.   pollcomment

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Nov 02

Posts: 76

and as for hi-viz

I tried hi-viz for a while. Other road users don't seem take you seriously in a day-glo vest. I seem to get more attention when I look menacing than when I look like a learner.

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Feb 11

Posts: 87

draper12807 says:

People these days are rediculously bad at driving. They don't concentrate on what is going on around them.They only look at the back of the car infront, god forbid they glance over their shoulders. Some people believe they are driving supertankers not hatchbacks. The main thing that amazes me is why they risk a head on collision on a 60 road than get within two feet of a cyclist. Hit my helmet on an x5 mirror last week when she was overtaking a cyclist on my side of the road, luckily managed not to bin it when I hit the kerb, stupid bint.

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Apr 12

Posts: 1


I have had all this all my life, I am a biker and I started my first bike when I was 12 and ever since to now, I ride a ZR 7 and I see people in cars trying to pull out, the worse bit is  they saw me coming and still pull out  bloody useless. they think they are so clever but not clever at all. They should be fines very heavy due to the care and lack of driving maybe a retest and make them to a test where bikers are involved, show them photos of unlucky riders being hurt or killed and this could be a WAKE UP CALL...  Bikers pls take care  it happening all the time, I hear stories.

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Mar 07

Posts: 1464

joeslow says:


On a bike I find drivers in London about the same.

Maybe it's because we do the thinking for them when we ride and also they don't see us as an invasion of "their road space".

In a car they're much worse and seem to do all they can to get in front of you by taking the most stupid terrible risks.

My top tip for driving in London, Look out for the Mercedes drivers if you value your life.

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Nov 03

Posts: 470

kl595 says:

This question is like saying are TV signal boosters good? A TV signal booster will make the best part of the signal better and the worse part even worse.

So, the more car drivers there are on the road, the greater the number of good ones and the greater the number of bad ones. It all depends on your journey and who you encounter.

Luckily as a car driver, a motorcyclist and a cyclist, I can't be pigeonholed. I am a human being, first and foremost. I choose to use 3 forms of transport - two of which are fun!. Some out there, on the road, aren't as open minded and only drive boxes for status and couldn't give a rats posterior about other peoples' safety. They look good and drive a more expensive car than you with more gadgets, so they must be a superior being?

You'll also here people say "All cyclists are idiots" and "All motorcycles should be banned". These are comments from ill educated people that shouldn't be on the road and through poor training and road awareness form a biased opinion based on their own immediate surroundings  -  a car.

The more the numbers increase, the more good ones will be out there and the more bad ones will be out there.

So to answer the poll, I need "an about the same" option.


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Apr 12

Posts: 320

DazLoczy says:

Is it really worse or due to more traffic?

The fact that there's more road traffic on the road today than there ever has been in the past might have something to do with it. There has always been the boy racer, GT driver, Doddery Coffin Dodger, foreign lorry driver, school run Mum (only now they have huge 4x4s which they can't park), Speedy Sales Rep with a mobile surgically attached to his ear, nervous newbie, wreckless newbie, UPS delivery guy (insert other companies as required), White Van Man (not all bad - I've been one myself), Pikey, Chav family with 15 kids squeezed into a clapped out Escort, Foggy wannabies and worst of all - cyclists! The only thing that's changed is the sheer number of them. As an occassional cyclist myself I don't want to tar all our man-powered bretheren with the same brush but who else can get away with running red lights, cutting in front of busses and making a general nuisance of themselves all while flying the smug 'Eco' flag? Anyway, that's another rant for another day. I've been a driver much longer than I've been a biker and have gained a deep hatred of the idiots who don't keep left on the motorway. Are you overtaking? No? Then move the f**k over!

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Apr 12

Posts: 24

david1991 says:


Its just a mixture of bad driving habits and jealousy cars (typically by drivers in flashy german cars) that don't want to let you past when your filtering through traffic because they cant in their £75,000 Audi, they should run all the think bike adverts again and put bike questions in the car test

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Jul 11

Posts: 244

MakemRider says:

Are car drivers better or worse than they used to be.

I have 40+ years of driving and IMHO standards have got worse over the years and it isn't all down to the under 21s. Middle aged & older drivers have dropped their standards.

On the other hand, while courtesy to others has also declined from when I first started driving it does appear getting better over the last few years. I see far less cases of road rage than I did 5-10 years ago.

So to answer the question, on the whole car drivers are not much worse than they used to be but the general standard of driving is far worse.

Add that to the fact that cars are a lot faster (driving standards should have increased to compensate) and that the police only seem to target drunk driving, speeding mobile phone use etc. (that are offences in their own right) and ignore a lot of those covered by 'umbrella' charges (careless, reckless, dangerous driving etc) and you have lots of drivers that do things wrong because 'they can'  'they don't know what they should be doing' or 'they don't care because they won't get caught'.

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Apr 12

Posts: 1

pixieonline says:

Not going to be popular

I know this won't be a popular idea but I think everyone (car and bike) should have to do stuff to maintain their licence. It is after all a privilege and not a right! Doctors and other professionals have to earn Continuing Professional Development points to maintain their registrations. This means they stay current with modern medicine. I think the same should be applied to the licencing system because jumping in a 2.5 tonne piece of metal or a 180mph bike you can easily kill someone! This already exists for HGV and PCV driver's so why not bring it in for other forms of transport. Doesn't need to be anything heavy or expensive just a little something to remind us all to brush up on the highway code or get rid of a few bad habits! Just to make it clear, I propose this as a means to improve road safety not another stealth tax...

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Apr 12

Posts: 24

momomomo says:


There is undoubtedly more awareness of motorcyclists and with more and more people riding bikes there are certainly more car drivers that know what it means to be on two wheels. What I think could be improved is the general knowledge of what travelling on two wheels implies. How would a car driver know that if you snatch a front brake you are likely to end up on the floor? The most irritating thing for me is when drivers keep nudging towards the middle of the road and when you start slowing down they start swearing at you because we are wasting their time... How the hell are we supposed to know if they are going to stop or not? Car drivers always think that they have left enough space and motorcycles can magically run around obstacles. A bit more education could go a long way. I am all for the motorcycling questions on the theory tests. Clever ones obviously...

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