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Matthew Birt  says:

MotoGP budget cap impossible to police, say HRC and Yamaha

Yamaha and Honda have said plans for a £12.5m budget cap on what factories can spend on their 1000cc MotoGP projects each season is impossible to police. Dorna is keen to implement a budget restriction of 15m Euros to entice new factories like BMW into MotoGP by making it much more financially viable to enter. But while Yamaha and Honda agree a...

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

Stating the obvious the bjgger companies will agree to it and the small company will not.

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RidgeRacerHRC

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i thought soo..

in theory budget cap sounds fantastic, logical and effective but in reality its just too hard to manage. And also, if say a team like Ducati who are behind Yamaha and Honda need to catch up how will they do so with  a budget cap? The goal posts would be moved further up while the straggling team will still be left behind...and no more of that 'lets make 6 frames a season ', different engine tune, aluminium frame etc etc. Basically if its not a level playing field to begin with whoever is behind is stuffed...

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revnev7

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revnev7 says:

That just won`t do,

        That would only leave Ducati with about 4 quid after wage`s.

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jamieg999

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jamieg999 says:

They'd be better off capping the price of a bike

A bike that doesn't need a small army of PC's and operators to run it will be cheaper. Employ one person to break down and cost a bike on the grid and make the cap less than it costs. They'll find a way around it eventually like engineers do and the show will continue rolling like it has for the last 70-100yrs depending on how you define it's beginnings. I'd say when man and bike first raced would be the start.

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ExFlyer

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ExFlyer says:

I've read a good suggestion, by Matt Oxley if memory serves. The rule would be that you can ride what you like, but everything required for a Grand Prix - bikes, tools, spares, food, brolly girls, the lot - must arrive in a long wheelbase Transit. Sounds like a plan.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

They have it in F1

But teams (maybe one team) are reputed to be going over it and nothing is done (can't be proved?)

Like the transit idea but regs need tightening. How high can you make it...? Passenger seat sharing would be cramped but very pleasurable if you get the brolly girl in the right position.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

User pays world Benny

The racing crash that put me into my 'temporary' retirement four years ago saw me treated by the circuit meatwagon before getting a mate to drive me to the hospital for the x-ray confirmation of a couple of broken bits. Although I would've preferred to have been told not to walk on my cracked pelvis.......

Personal responsibility mate. Too many free lunches in this soft cock world as it is.

I agree with Nakamoto. Jarvis was too wishy washy with his use of the word 'virtually'.

Budget cap. What a simplistic joke.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Snowdon's a walk, not a climb ;)

... but if I set sail in my rubber dingy in a force 9 gale - and then run into trouble, do I pay for the rescue helicopter?

Or, if I set out to climb Mt Snowdon in shitty conditions and find myself horribly lost, do I pay for the Mountain Rescue Team?

Yes, if you happen to be a fukwit out for a day trip and don't fully appreciate the possible consequences.

No, should you be a paid professional doing 'your job'.

Edit........ 'No' equally if your at an organised event.

 

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

How's life in your socialist Utopia Benny?

And who's going to pay for it?

When I was in business Benny I needed public liability insurance. These are professional motorcycle racers, you insure yourself accordingly.

As it is I know in N.Z if some numpty calls out search and rescue, having proven to be well under prepared, the State will bill that individual for wasting tax payer time and money. There was a classic case of some old Brit solo round the world sailor a few years ago. He got his dingy a day or two off shore before having to be rescued. He was told to cough up and rightfully so as he was under prepared and set sail in poor conditions.

If you're going into a potentially dangerous environment well under prepared then face the consequences. There's 7 billion of us on this planet. If a few from lower down the gene pool drop off because of their own stupidity that is a good thing in my books. The modern West over values life.

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CBR11X

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CBR11X says:

User pays is for poor people. The super-wealthy are the ones who live in a part-time socialist utopia, they get the rest of us to pay for their bank bailouts, tax concessions etc. That is they socialise their costs and privatise the resulting wealth.

Don't believe the hype. Everything is paid for, several times over, by poor saps like us.

 

I don't know how we got to this discussion from this story though!

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