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Andy Downes  says:

James Toseland gets back on two wheels with Harley-Davidson

Retired racer and former World Superbike champion James Toseland is back on two wheels again with a new Harley-Davidson Softail Slim. After spending more than half of his life focusing on using two wheels to reach the finish line in the quickest time possible, Toseland has chosen a more relaxed set of wheels for road riding now his racing days are...

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eatcs01

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eatcs01 says:

Toseland HD

A harley wouldn't be my first choice of bike, but then I'm not James Toseland.

 

I'd just love to be a fly on the wall when a sports bike rider overtakes him and upsets him..... LOL

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Piglet2010 says:

Not happening...

Sorry eatcs01, but a H-D Softtail Slim has maximum lean angles of 24° right and 24.9° left, and only about 65 horsepower at the rear wheel to move over 850 pounds (with rider). Don’t care who is riding one and on what roads, they won’t catch even a wanker on a 600cc race replica.

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2012models/2012-Harley-Davidson-Softail-FLSSlim.htm

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snev

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snev says:

gsxrrrrr

sorry mate ...did you say something? or are you just angry?

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69Fastback

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69Fastback says:

Horses for Courses!

Anyone who thinks you can't have fun on a cruiser, either: Has never ridden one, or; has limited riding skills. Having ridden in excess off 100 bikes, from a BSA Bantam to the latest V4 Aprilia. I have great fun on my Cali 1100, and often (excuse the modesty) whoop the a*** off Blades, Ninja's... over the Cat & Fiddle, Horseshoe Pass... It may not be a Ten Kate Yam, but Toseland is more than capable of making that Harley Sing. And no! I don't just ride a Cali. Remember this: You might take him on your Blade, but on equivalent Iron;s, he'd likely make you look like a learner! A Nod to All

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Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

Strawmen

Well 69Fastback, you have just introduced a bunch of strawmen into the argument.

  1. No one was claiming it was impossible to have fun on a cruiser.
  2. A Moto Guzzi California 1100 likely has much more cornering clearance than a H-D Softtail Slim. If you bother to look at the H-D website, you will see that most other “Big Twins” have higher seats, and more ground and corning clearance. The < 25° of lean on the Slim has to be one of the lowest of any production motorcycle.
  3. No one here was claiming to be faster than Toseland on equivalent motorcycles. After all, a trained monkey on a Honda Fireblade will be faster than Agostini in his prime on a Honda Monkey.

So let us stick to arguing relative to what Toseland is actually riding, eh?
 

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69Fastback

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69Fastback says:

Horses for Courses!

I replied to: "I'd just love to be a fly on the wall when a sports bike rider overtakes him and upsets him..... LOL" Horses for Courses. Having ridden across the states "twice", A large comfortable bike will suffice, whilst Staying within the speed limits on mainly long "long" straight roads. Even when the roads change, towards the coast, there's still no need to change the bike, just sit back and enjoy the ride. Once rode a 350 Baja from Chiang Mai, up through the Golden Triangle and back, needed anal reconstruction! A Nod To All

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69Fastback

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69Fastback says:

Correction

Getting carried away "250" Baja!

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Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

Not Into Pain

Sorry, but about an hour on a cruiser is about all my back and posterior will accept. And the wind blast in the cruiser position at highway speeds gets very tiresome. Funny thing is, all the cruiser owners I know pretty much agree, but they only use their bikes as occasional toys to show off on so it does not matter.

On the other hand, I can easily ride 12 hours a day comfortably on my Honda Deauville (which even in the US cost much less than any H-DBig Twin”.

And if you look carefully at any of the bikes H-D sells as tourers, they all have more of standard geometry and riding position, despite looking like cruisers. They also all have front windshields and/or fairings.
 

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cetdac

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cetdac says:

500 mile round trip on HD no probs

Last year road my HD down from West Yorks to London onto Eastbourne then Ramsgate with no discomfort whatsover? Then back up through Kent stayed over night and then home. Dont know why people assume its a bad riding position? Look at the mileages a lot of Americans do on HD's without complaint.

My NTV is a lovely comfortable bike too Piglet but I find the HD easier on my back on longer journeys.

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69Fastback

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69Fastback says:

piglet

That's a new one on me mate! Sat on cruisers eight hrs a day, might feel a slight twitch at the end, but nothing to stop you riding the next day. When a cruisers fitted with a screen, 70 mph feels fine. Maybe you have an un-diagnosed back problem?

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