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I’M SORRY – I’LL SAY THAT AGAIN...

Something screwy/fishy here ...
 

As we all know - there is no smoke without fire.
 

This is sus beyond belief. WHY has a non-bike media outlet with zero interest in the sport, woken-up one morning and suddenly decided, completely out of the blue, to run this story? It is so kinda abritrary & random that it delies belief - it isn't coming from "excitable" Italians, nor lisping Spaniards with re-awoken plans of Empire and/or GP World domination either - its coming from a non-biker, mainstream Brit newspaper ...
 

Yep - the 'Journo involved is their F1 guy - which got me thinking a bit more. Isn't it quite possible that "someone who knows someone" in that cross-over netherworld & nexus of MotoGP & F1 ( both interested in the other & especially Senor Rossi with his background of being "pally" & "testing" etc with Ferrari) has in fact got a tip or heard something from someone in the inner circle - and promptly spilled the beans - and the onions? There isn't any other "rational" explanation for this weird oddity, is there?
 

As Mandy Rice-Davies famously said in Court of John Profumo & Brit Government flaks attempting a cover-up - "Well - he would say that - wouldn't he!" Not a question - an accusation or bald statement of fact.
 

The conspiracy theory for today, Lads. Over to you with it. Cheers
 

Do we all feel better now? Jeez – talk about nit-pick & otherwise abuse & shoot the messenger when you don’t like the message. Some MCN posters should be awarded Masters Degrees in it. So, I made two mistakes here with the names – sorry - did it alter in any way, shape or form the thrust & meaning of the post? No!

My sincere thanks to Mike27 for correcting me on which of the 2 prostitutes said what in Court during this sensational British espionage & illicit sex case & the Brit Secretary For War from 1963. In my defence, the 1989 film “SCANDAL” starring the gorgeously luscious Joanna Whalley as Christine Keeler very probably distracted me here – also the beautiful swansong by Dusty Springfield RIP - “NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVED” written by Neil Tenant of the Pet Shop Boys about the case, which perfectly captures the mood & sense of time & place in the film. Cheers
 

Wosi...

"How can this be if the bike had nothing to do with it? Did Casey all of a sudden become more than twice as good as he was the year before?"

Did he get more than twice the points?... sorry I must have missed that one.

He only needed a bike slightly better than the Ducati to turn his 9 podiums (+1) into wins & his 5 crashes & 1 of his other finishes into podiums. He finished within a race win of the top Honda on the Ducati in 2010... did the Honda suddenly become twice as good as it had been the year before?

Being on the Honda was obviously the difference but had he gone to Yamaha the result may well have been the same & you'd have even more reason to declare his win being on the best bike (developed, of course, by Rossi).

I honestly thought people had got over the best-bike-whinging but obviously not.

What are you talking about millarmob, The Tax saga was years ago!! He's got more than you and I can count! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentino_Rossi#Tax_avoidance_case And as for the can't ride a Ducati.... well he's not falling off anymore and still better than 99.9% of bike riders.

Hmmm

Not sure I agree with any of that. I'm not sure what this means, "What it does show I think, is the difference moving from Ducati to Honda was worth to Casey." What it seems to have been worth to Stoner is the ability to go just about as fast as he wants whenever ever he feels like it for the last 18 months. I sort of agree that his skillset hasn't improved that markedly but as I know you're coming at it from the point of view that his skills are suspect  I disagree, I think his skillset is at a point that would be difficult to improve because they already dictate every time the watch starts, apart from the odd occasion, exactly what is required to be the man at the front.

The only thing required to beat Casey Stoner consistently is to be faster, consistently. All the rest is just hopes, ideas or "on paper".

Bloodbubble/Bulto

The VR46 brand will be ensuring the steady trickle of Euro/Lira or Sheckles into the account long after he's dead I should imagine. The brand is safe in the long term if the Ducati debacle doesn't do lasting damage. To be fair the 46ers have got Ducati bang to rights so Rossi will always be in the clear and free to plot new T-shirt designs.

Bulto: I think you nailed it there re: WSB, if he wants to go and his ego and such like. I stand by my bike for bike racing, WSB is heavyweight comment, I'm talking pure motorbikes and the racing thereof not the fluffy, priced up sheep fodder shit that permeates through this site. 

I can kind of see that Rossi wants to stay in MotoGP and why, but facts are facts, he can't make up the gap to the front so why not switch to a championship where he doesn't have to? WSB. If it's about racing with a chance to win and then winning obviously. If he doesn't want to then it suggests ego issues and unrealistic self diagnosis issues to me. He should have reined the ego back and stayed with Yamaha, but he didn't look at the bigger picture, he was too busy keeping to the script he's written.