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Liam Marsden  says:

British MotoGP: Bautista takes surprise pole

Gresini Honda rider Alvaro Bautista will start tomorrow's British GP from pole position after setting his fastest lap just before rain started to fall. Bautista set his fastest lap of 2'03.303 with 10 minutes of the session remaining, just before the rain flags came out and stopped any of the other riders improving on the Spaniard's time. Factory Yamaha rider Ben Spies starts...

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Well done indeed

You have to assume that he would have got bumped off eventually, if the conditions hadn't worsened, but when he set his ime, they were all out and he was fastest on track at that time, Stoner and Lorenzo both did a couple of laps before the rain but didn't better him

Hayden was the one about to bump him off until the crash as he was flying, be interesting to see if he can carry that form into the race tomorrow, be nice to see Hayden and Bautista running at the front. Spies there as well, the battle for the podium may have a different look about it tomorrow.

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

Good luck to everyone tommorow especially the Yamaha guys (Spies) hopefully the conditions aren't like last year thats my only fear.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

You have to assume that he would have got bumped off eventually, if the conditions hadn't worsened, but when he set his ime, they were all out and he was fastest on track at that time, Stoner and Lorenzo both did a couple of laps before the rain but didn't better him

Cheers for that 'Bulto' bud. I knew the weather played a part to some degree (i've been on the Golf course all day + the 19th Hole!) but from what you've said Alvaro seem's to have stuck a lap in when it mattered and good fortune smiled on him. That'll be one happy team tonight.

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adam15holden

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adam15holden says:

Welldone Alvaro. Good stuff. Really seems to be gelling with that Honda now.

Still think Stoner is the fast man and he will ride away tomorrow.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Nice to see a new name on top

Well done Alvaro. He still had a fresh softy and said he made mistakes on his fast lap, so no reason to think he couldn't have had this if the rain didn't affect play. David Emmett thinks the million dollar question is does Rossi have the enthusiasm to continue with Ducati. I think it's more a sixty four thousand dollar question.

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

WHEN WILL IT EVER STOP? (2) ...

Two points here: a good few years back, Oprah Winfrey completed a Full Marathon. The time was irrelevant - her personal challenge just to finish, overcome & achieve the 42.2 kilometre distance. A horde of negative naysayers immediately denigrated this - making all sorts of comments like, “Well – it’s easy for her, with her money & access to “personal trainers” etc & what was the big deal?” This obviously came from envious non-achievers - people who couldn’t run around their own block or challenge themselves past the Hamburger stand! And to start comparing a middle-aged, obese, African-American woman to the likes of sylph-like, young & uber-athletes & World’s Best rocket ships like Paula Radford or Greta Waitz et al was not only patently ridiculous – the criticism missed the entire point – no-one ran it for Winfrey & she did it all by herself - without jets or any other aids in her running shoes. So did Batista with his very first Pole...

Another fact to consider: Looking at 2 x GP tragedies & their aftermaths – Daijiro Kato’s record shows that Marco Simoncelli didn’t hold a candle to him - insofar as their respective records & therefore their future, albeit sadly truncated, potential shows – Kato’s 250cc record makes ‘Simo look almost “ordinary” & his brief Senior Class record very much the same & all without the negatives of being a serial wrecking ball for other riders... After his fatal crash @ Suzuka in 2003 - the FIM retired Kato's number - 74 not being used by any rider since. The FIM also quite rightfully named him a Grand Prix "Legend".

But here’s a totally hypocritical peculiarity for you: - In 2006, the Misano Circuit honoured Kato, who lived part of the season in the area, by naming a new access road to the circuit “Via Daijiro Kato”. That circuit's offices are located on the road named in his memory.
 

So – ‘Super-Sic gets the ENTIRE circuit named after him in 2011-12 as a mark of respect - but a guy who Simoncelli, quite frankly, couldn’t tie the laces of the shoes of – Daijiro Kato – ONLY gets an access road there named after him. Really – there is no “justice or equity” – just shallow, media-confected & “nationalistic” nonsense!
 

Maybe it helps one’s post-mortem reputation, cachet or mana to have had big hair & be Italian? Over to you for your own thoughts, & opinions, OK?
Cheers
 

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

WHEN WILL IT EVER STOP? (1) ...

Alvaro Bautista gets the Pole @ Silverstone. Great – good on him – well done, Son!

Forget conditions etc & all other rationales & excuses as to who & why & how come & ifs, buts & maybe’s... Fact is, in the same conditions as everyone else - Bautista went quicker than anybody else. Like – there was no-one else “assisting” or on the bike with him. Agreed?
 

So – why oh why do the bike media & “official” MotoGP commentators, Harris & Moody go & denigrate, belittle & insult Bautista by saying things like, “He was on Simoncelli’s bike”?
Then we get stuff like Alvaro Bautista’s Pole - being “dedicated” to Marco Simoncelli. I didn’t see or hear this from Alvaro’s mouth – it came from Fausto Gresini - thus, also & in his own way, devaluing the bravery, talent & effort of his own rider. And there are plenty of others who seem to want to perpetuate this indulgent & hysterical wallow in last year’s grief.
 

Anyone really believe in “ghosts & spirits or the occult & witch doctors” - all that silly stuff? It is one thing to fondly respect & remember & honour someone who has passed-away – but this has become just sickening & silly.
 

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TetsuoSama

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TetsuoSama says:

Half agree with you aquarius

I agree that Oprah could do a better job than Vale, but I'd like to see Alvaro wear an afro to honour Marco's hair style.

Oh, and two thumbs up for Alvaro.  I didn't see the sector times at the end, but he must have been fastest in the last sector.  Was over 0.1 down at the third, but stormed it.  Also wished Nicky could have finished his hot lap which would have been hard to beat.

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gsxr1969

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gsxr1969 says:

spot on aquarius

Couldn't agree more. please, time to move on.

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aquarius

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aquarius says:

FACTS & NOT “OPINIONS”, BB (2)...

Daijiro Kato: Not a lot to say about this absolute “wizard & magician” of the 250cc Class because we all know (or should) about him. His first BIG race was the 1996 Japanese GP which he entered as a “Wild Card”- he came home 3rd. He won the 250cc Japanese GP in 1997 & 1998 too – which must have caused the “established GP guys” much angst – as he was merely an allegedly “humble” Wild Card in all of them! Then – won @ Suzuka again in 2000 & 2001 too – but these 2 as a fully-fledged 250cc GP Factory rider. In 1997 he had finally got serious by entering his National Championship – also winning the Title there. In 2000 Kato became a full-time GP rider, winning 4 x GP’s & coming 3rd overall in the Championship.
 

Then the magic in 2001: 11 x 250cc GP Wins & 322 Points – both of these absolute all-time records for the Class. Daijiro didn’t just win the Title – he was Doohan-esque in smashing all rivals & running-away with it! The fabulous Tetsuya Harada, another “master” of the 250cc Class was no slouch – winning the Title in 1993 along with 17 x GP’s & 10 “other” Podiums & 11 Poles. Harada on a ridiculously fast Aprilia works bike couldn’t get within 49 points of Kato to finish 2nd overall – despite winning 3 x GP’s & getting 10 “other” Podiums!
 

In his first Senior year on a Honda NSR 500 (& an RCV5 from Brno in Round 10 – immediately taking a 2nd there on it) through 2002, Kato looked ultra-promising – getting 2 x 2nds (one on each type of Honda) , 3 x 4ths & 1 x 5th against a very strong field to finish 7th overall & in front of far more experienced & established Honda riders such as Capirossi, Harada & Ito. Kato had either retired or crashed-out of 6 x GP’s for zero points – so 7th was some kind of miracle, really. You can teach a FAST rider not to crash – but you can’t teach a SLOW rider to go FAST in the first place. He also Won the Suzuka 8 Hour with Colin Edwards in 2002.
 

It all looked really good for 2003 but fate played a cruel hand in the opening Round @ Suzuka with Kato crashing & 200 kph into a barrier at the Casio Triangle & passing-away several days later. There is still no agreed "reason" for the crash & mechanical failure is strongly suspected, although the bike was so badly damaged & any evidence difficult if not impossible to identify. Given his background of repeated success there & intimate knowledge of the Suzuka circuit - it is almost inconceivable that Kato made a catastrophic mistake or positioning error. A serious F1 crash had happened at exactly the same spot in 2002?
 

In the final wash-up, Kato has to be regarded as clearly the superior rider and far more deserving of the “Great” label. That he was so “clinical & clean” compared to the reckless & erratic Simoncelli was a massive bonus to his fellow competitors. Cheers
 

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