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Yes - get in there

When he decides to tell you something you're having it, money will not hold him back, stark honesty, love it! Bridgestone already has the tyres that the works Honda lads want but they choose to withhold them - a very odd position for Bridgestone to take, certainly nothing to do with safety in fact quite the opposite. The works Honda lads want last years tyres, give them the tyres after all they're the ones doing the 200+ mph riding. Remember - this tyre thing works both ways, anyone who wants the Ducatis to move forward are/will benefit from better Ducati tyres that are now being tested.

Time to give them better tyres

Getting caught out and breaking ankles, collar bones, femurs, fibulas, and tibias

That situation was over one, maybe two seasons. Prior to that there were no such problems. Bridgestone are messing with the tyres every year but this is the first time they have brought in a new tyre into the season. Safety my arse, they didn't do it when they should have done it on safety grounds did they.

Stoner is right, the tyres are stopping the riders giving it full gas over a race distance, as is the fuel limit. It's ruining the pinnacle of tarmac racing. Evolution and technology is ruining motorsport in general. F1, whilst providing entertaining races, they are 'false'. It has become a lottery and drivers are dependent upon their cars not eating tyres. WRC is a shadow of what it was, so is World M/X, WEC and Touring Cars - they're all becoming a turn-off, led by promoters more interested in attracting big sponsorship and money to line their own pockets than with the good of each sport.

No doubt the anti-Stoner brigade will leap on this with their moaning accusations but what about their hero Rossi? He is saying the same thing about the tyres....

HERE WE GO AGAIN...

When the bike media hack pack “quotes” Casey Stoner, I just wish they would do this “verbatim” – instead of injecting their own interpretation too, which tends to appear as mere “slant & spin” on what was actually said in reality... This habit of many journalists only serves to change the context of what was said – even why & how it was said – and also tends to change the “context”. As any more intelligent person knows - context is everything. Things taken out of context are usually misunderstood. Yes?
 

Take this wee gem from MCN’s Matt Birt: “Stoner’s unease with Bridgestone grew during the recent British Grand Prix when he blamed a severe deterioration in rear grip for his failure to defeat title rival Jorge Lorenzo.” No, Matt – that’s NOT what HE said at all – he didn’t actually say that – especially the last & highlighted bit. The last 7 words is what YOU interpreted & added in to spice-up the story & the “quote”...
 

Unfortunately, the way that then reads is that Stoner is making it “personal” to Lorenzo & presenting it as an “excuse”. He didn’t, hasn’t & he isn’t! He was merely stating his view of his performance & the facts about the Race - as he experienced it from his perch on the seat of the RC213V – and why he “faded” before making a superb effort in braking very hard & using his incredible (manual) throttle control to drive out on the ragged edge of any adhesion to just get 2nd from his team-mate, Dani Pedrosa.
 

Sure – Stoner complained about a lack of “edge-grip” which hampered him mid-corner & on corner exits (one of his strong points) after Lap 5. Fact of the matter is – so did Ben Spies! Stoner led for 6 x Laps & Spies for 4 x Laps before the tyre problem for both riders became too much to hold their original pace (which even Lorenzo said he really struggled with in simply hanging on) – which raises the distinct possibility of “quality control issues” with Bridgestone these days. Dedicated fans would either have to be ignorant, suffer selective amnesia & be biased in the extreme to not accept that a “dud” tyre (especially in its “compounding”) can be a reality that has happened on numerous occasions in GP history.
 

I make no apology whatsoever for dwelling on & examining the subject of media-manipulated “semantics” here. The history of Stoners rivalry with Rossi since 2007 is littered with an almost orchestrated litany of media-manufactured “controversies” that invariably painted Stoner in the worst light & imbued him with a certain “reputation” that was deceitfully undeserved. These days, many have come to recognise his veracity & openness for what it is – ask a question – get an honest & non PR-slanted answer, warts-n-all! Stoner says what he thinks & what people need to know. This is sometimes different from what they expected or what they wanted to hear. Are you listening, Dorna?
 

After this season, the media won’t have a genuine “great” & the fastest rider of his generation around to misquote & paint “negative” anymore - so they will have to find another “whipping boy”. Pity that after 2 x World Titles & 42 x GP Wins to date - old habits seem to die hard.
 

Cheers
 

Throw in the word 'shit pig'

and it's yet another stock standard post from Milky.

yawn.....

BLAME ASSPELATA

for cut budget for bridgestone. blame him cause threat bridgestone with michelin enter the motogp again. that's what bridgestone give you for your shit rule. no budget so honda and yamaha cann't going faster. and in the end asspelata hope rossi could catch him. all his 46ers fans wants to see it and thing OW MY GOSH, IT'S ROSSI SKILL AND DEVELOPMENT! while we all know this is shit. honda and yamaha getting slower cause this tyre. lorenzo don't care about it cause he know stoner run his tyre faster than his style. well, at least after this season, i'll not going watch motogp again. and i'm sure thousands would if ASSPELATA still kiss rossi's ass.

SO BORRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.