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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati deal hard to refuse, says Cal Crutchlow’s boss

Cal Crutchlow’s Tech 3 Yamaha boss Herve Poncharal believes the British rider can’t knock back the opportunity to join Ducati’s factory squad in 2013. With the chance of a factory Yamaha ride not materialising, Crutchlow will have to remain in the satellite Tech 3 squad on the same financial terms if he rejects Ducati’s lucrative two-year offer. The 26-year-old has a two-year...

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Milkybars

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Milkybars says:

Don't remember Cal

ever leading a race. Perhaps at Ducrapi he can get a proper bike setup from Rossi like he did for him in WSBK to win a few races. You really cannot teach a baboon new tricks.

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750FLYER

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750FLYER says:

Did

I say Cal ever lead a race Mr Milky?????


.....I did not!

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RawDawg

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RawDawg says:

Wosi my ol' Friend

Don't get me wrong here. I hate to continue on with this subject as I don't have an ax to grind nor is this some sort of Cal bashfest but I find your post rather perplexing, humorous, and self serving as usual. I look forward to Cal getting it on the box (which I suspect to come sooner than later) and him on the Ducati. But once again we agree to disagree. Sorry if I don't see how someone can have more potential when their trajectory and rate of results have come slower than the ones being compared to.

It's funny that you say "I'm not gonna sit here and write a list of Crutchlow's stats to try and make a convincing case" because my whole point is that you nor anyone can - Cal hasn't really done anything extraordinary or even achieved the accomplished of the ones being compared to. I find it hypocritical that you can harp on the past achievements of Rossi day after day and still hold faith after 1.5 years of disappointment yet you write Spies off after half a year and discount his past record. I also find it self serving for you to say "Dovi is doing good churning out un-startling results like we know he does". Fact is, he has 3 podiums this year - that's pretty damn good. If that is "un-startling" how do you describe Cal's results? Because he still doesn't have any podiums after 1.5 years. Yet he's the one with more potential right? Exactly how many other satellite riders have podiums this year? That number would be zero. I don't rate Spies, Cal, or Dovi over Jorge and Casey so I find Dovi's 3rd in title last year rather good.

To help you understand my point, let's use your hero Rossi and your hated rider Stoner as an example. Would you or anyone say that Stoner had "more potential" than Rossi after his first season? No. And why is that? Because he didn't achieve the same level of success as Rossi or had the rate of success as Rossi his first season. That's all I'm saying. It's that simple. Cal has yet to achieve in 1.5 season what it took Dovi and Spies 1 year to - he still doesn't have the podiums or number of top 5's. His trajectory of success has been slower so how does he have more potential? Does that say Cal can't or won't get better? No it doesn't. Hell, for all we know, like Stoner, he may go to Ducati and win the title his first year ther. But at this point, I can't say he has "more" potential than either Dovi or Spies because he hasn't shown more. Good luck to Cal and I hope he has a successful season and good career.

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ThePornstar

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ThePornstar says:

Benny shags hedgehogs...

Are you tripping there fool? Here's a couple of questions for you;

1, Who do you think Jorge (or Casey) would say is the 2nd best  (obviuosly after Jorge) Yamaha rider is this season?

2. Do you really think Rossi couldn't win on either the Honda or the Yamaha?

If your answers are not 1. Cal, and 2. No then you are clearly a deluded twat.

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750FLYER

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750FLYER says:

Gotta agree

with the pornstar there...

I have seen nothing from Cal this year that makes me believe he is not considered a 'top rider'... And I think the fact that he's still on Herve's/Jarvis's shopping wish list back's that up fully.

Whatever way you cut it up Cal will be on a 'top ride' next year... even if there are doubts amongst the ranks that a Ducati ride could be considered... 'top'

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trailler

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trailler says:

There is reports.......

........suggesting that Dovis podiums are false , and they were won threw other peoples misfortunes......:sunglasses:

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Dawg

It's funny that you say "I'm not gonna sit here and write a list of Crutchlow's stats to try and make a convincing case" because my whole point is that you nor anyone can - Cal hasn't really done anything extraordinary or even achieved the accomplished of the ones being compared to.

But Cal, with his mediocre results, managed to secure a seat in 'Team Best of the Rest'. How so? As 'chris, wosi, ridge' etc have pointed out, potential is based on a professional judgement of future performance based on previous performance. Performance......................not trophies.

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Milkybars

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Milkybars says:

3 wins in WSBK

was Cal potential that he could not be denied a spot in Motogp. Meanwhile all WSBK riders had to win that Championship two, 2, twice to get a seat in Motogp. Cal is special.....for sure.....for sure. It is not too often a baboon is capable of riding so fast. So the spectacle was needed in Motogp. Go monkey man go!!!

Poor Spies was denied a Factory bike with the shit Rookie rule that year. The special thing about Ben potential in comparison is that he is of ALIEN qualities while Ape man is a total fuck up and nothing special.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Spies 'alien'?

???????????????????????

Wasn't he the one who coined the phrase due to......................

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Milkybars

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Milkybars says:

Only one rider

have beaten Dani, Stoner, Lorenzo, Rossi. Guess who?????? .........and it is not monkey man.

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