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Liam Marsden  says:

Valentino Rossi to leave Ducati

Ducati has officially announced that seven-time MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi will leave the factory team at the end of the 2012 season. Rossi joined the factory Ducati team in 2011 after winning four world championships with the factory Yamaha squad, but failed to gel with the Ducati, claiming a best result of second in the rain at Le Mans in...

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kindredelf

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kindredelf says:

anyway

any way being in oz and out of touch with my beloved weekly bible -mnc unreliable internet whats happening with our cal please can someone post here to keep me informed

thank you

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Smackbum

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Smackbum says:

Rev, Rev, Rev ...

In middle of last season there was an interview with JB which was very telling.  This was the man who has more 500cc/MotoGP titles than Valentino and was considered the master of set-up.

He basically intimated that Valentino was lost and was not giving the team the feedback it needed.

This year has seen the ignomious example of Rossi "borrowing" Hayden's set-up because he couldn't find the best settings himself.

The rider plays an important part of the team in getting the most out of the bike and giving feedback to the factory about where the design and engineering effort should be concentrated.  Valentino is an epic rider, no question.  But developmental god????? Sorry - it has been proved that take him out of his comfort zone and he is as lost as any other rider.  There is one exception to this for Ducati, but because you apparently have to either love Valentino and hate Casey or vice-versa, we get a whole lot of shite posted on MCN.

Pity they aren't both retiring, I say, as then we could get back to reality and support the sport not the egos.

 

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trailler

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trailler says:

The riders

give the engineers and designers - direction...

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parris

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parris says:

One thing is for sure

One thing is for sure and that is ducati hasn't produced a competitive bike. Fact is Stoner & Rossi complained of the exact same issues and ducati after four nearly five years haven't come up with a fix. Fact is Rossi & Stoner left ducati cause ducati sucks.

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trailler

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trailler says:

RevRoger

I would say we are both right .

Once the bike has been built , it's up to the rider to  start's the development ball rolling , and give his/her  crew some verbal guidence , telementry and lap times . A rider can only do so much .

A race bike isnt developt by one person , the bike is developt by many people .

 

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trailler

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trailler says:

Rev

I'll tell ye one thing , when VAG get there paws on to "that" Ducati , we might just see a completly different bike to this years........, hmm!.....maybe sighning for team Duck wouldnt be a bad move after all.

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trailler

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trailler says:

I hope

S.Redding get's the chance he deserve's with team Duck or any other team . He wasnt that far off the pace on the old Duck.

I reckon he would be blinding on a RCV or M1.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Fans..or fuckos?

It seems the news has the serial Rossi bashers in serious flap. Deep rooted prejudices are clearly fueling the salaviating, utter bollocks dribbled by previously thought intelligent folk, hell bent on hysterical agendas. Casey Stoner was dissed..Rossi has to pay? fkin grow up.

Mind games are all part of top level sport and it seems to have had the required effect now doesn't it? Who is off home?

Tech 3 satellite rider and 9th place finisher in 2003 Alex Barros' recommedations were responsible for Vale turning Yamaha's fortunes around after 12 years?

The factory Yamaha bikes mustered not a single podium between them the year before he joined and won the championship against the all conquering RCV-V5 but, it was quick and competitive before Rossi ever saw it?

You fkin dolts need help!

..medical help, to have those tightly knotted bunched-up orange incontinent pants wrapped round your necks surgically from the crack of arseholes, therefore enabling head extraction allowing fresh air and perspective to clear this blighting all pervading yellow fog that is clouding reasonable, balanced discourse..as witnessed all to briefly below?

Props to trailler and Benny.

 

Everybody who rode the Ducati said the same thing..Melandri was advised to see a shrink. Stoner was so badly affected, even a year back on a competitive bike winning the title couldn't bannish the nightmare and stop him from quitting.

 

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Get real

The factory Yamaha bikes mustered not a single podium between them the year before he joined and won the championship against the all conquering RCV-V5 but, it was quick and competitive before Rossi ever saw it?

Your normal tainted response and refusal to apply any objectivity. Same old crap, blaming 'Stoneritis' for daring to question wildly exagerrated claims about what Rossi did. What's it got to do with Stoner - it's you who has the ingrained problems sunshine. You mention him in nearly every comment.

There is no argument that the 2003 bike wasn't that good. There is also no argument that they didn't have a regular race winner on it either, so good results were always going to be difficult. One of the alledged problems was the fierce power delivery of the engine - Barros suggested a softer version.

The 2004 bike, as you well know, was designed afresh by Furusawa - you know the score - before Rossi. Rossi broke his own lap record on it. The bike was good straight from the box. Rossi never rode the 2003 bike and offered a direction for Furusawa to follow and produce the 04 bike - he was already there. You know this. Are you going to say he developed the 500 Honda as well - as has been suggested - the bike that had won 6 straight titles when he got on it.

His time at Ducati has shown him to be on the same level as any other top drawer racer, not 1 second a lap above it as was so often claimed and someone who looks quite ordinary when a bike doesn't suit him - certainly not 1 second a lap faster than a team mate on equal equipment. It's also showed he is no more able to adapt to and overcome the shortcomings of a problem bike than any of the others, except one, so that myth is busted too.

What he gave to Yamaha was a rider who was fast enoough to make the best use of a good bike. He was a better rider than Biaggi, who did and still does make too many mistakes. Gibernau was almost there but not quite - who else was there? Barros was not on the same level but actually beat Rossi a few times when Honda let him have a V5 at the end of the season

A good rider on a good bike - of course he was able to win in 2004. No argument. Just don't perpetuate the crap about the M1 being good because of his direction. It was already where it was when he got on it.

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trailler

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trailler says:

Wosidawg

Props to trailler and benny?.

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