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Liam Marsden  says:

Valentino Rossi to leave Ducati

Ducati has officially announced that seven-time MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi will leave the factory team at the end of the 2012 season. Rossi joined the factory Ducati team in 2011 after winning four world championships with the factory Yamaha squad, but failed to gel with the Ducati, claiming a best result of second in the rain at Le Mans in...

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

And just to illustrate the point

All he can be blamed for is not riding around the problems, but then he was never brought in to do that, he was brought in to set the bike up so everyone could ride it,

We have that from Firebird. When has Rossi, or any other rider, given a flying feck about whether the bike suits someone else. If they can get the factory to steer the design of the bike to suit them, that is all they are interested in. Do you honestly believe that if Rossi was happy with the Ducati but Hayden was complaining that it didn't ride as he required, Rossi would agree and suggest to Ducati that the design be changed so that poor okd Nicky wasn't feeling left out and struggling.

Yeah, right.

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trailler

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trailler says:

Firebird

Ducati design/engineer/build the bike , Rossi and co build on the development of the bike during testing , something they didnt manage .

Fair enough 40-50% is maybe a tad harsh , but at the end of the day both partys were at fault , there seemed a distinct lack of communication between Rossi and Ducati . That partnership just didnt gel.

Fire , you should re-read your post . There are some contradictions in there .

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acanada46

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acanada46 says:

YamahaGYTR

Fair play Rossi finished ahead of Stoner in those 4 seasons apart from 2007 and 2011 but lets look at things now Casey is laughing at Rossi enjoy that

well,rossi is riding a factory yam next season and stoner will be farming.

:lol:

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

So funny acanada and watch Rossi get his ass handed to him as well by JL on the factory Yamaha.

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blue200tdi

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blue200tdi says:

You lot are always worth a laugh when I've had a bad day!!

Rossi hasn't failed, Ducati have, how can you say that Rossi is lucky or a wimp or blah blah when he is clearly the best rider of all time? If he wins a title next year the posts on here will be " He only won because Moaner left!"

Time and time again I've said it but it seems to go over your heads, are you all two feet tall? You cannot win on inferior equipment, no matter who you are. And that is all there is to it. How do any of you know that Rossi is telling the factory to do something but they just aren't doing because either they don't understand what he wants or just don't want to do it 'cos they know best!?

These posts are either Rossi lover or Stoner lover, hilarious!

Hands up who hasn't got a GSXR, CBR, R1, or an R6? Oh, that'll be me then! lmfao!!

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moany100

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moany100 says:

I JUST DON'T GET

how anyone can trash talk about valentino rossi if you think he can't ride you must need a white stick and a trained retriever,

watch faster then you'll understand what development skills the guy has, SORRY I GET IT YOU'RE JUST DOPEY TWATS LIKE ARGUING FOR THE SAKE OF IT WHAT A BUNCH OF DOHNUT LOSERS

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Bulto..

 

The baiting, banter and rivalry is what makes this place fun..sometimes it can be hilarious, sometimes it's humourless dross. All part and parcel. It can be difficult to have rational debate though as you say.

Rossi is far from perfect no doubt..who is'nt? He's contentious and polarises opinion. Love or loathe the man, he adds spice and his racing credentials are second to none. He has flair.

The last year and a half have put the kybosh on his ability to pull a rabbit out the hat, apart from when it's been wet but, anyone who has ridden a bike fast in tricky conditions knows what that means..he hasn't lost his feel or touch. He's still capable. Ducati employed him for his feedback, to gain new direction with their bike and they fkin blew it.

I think going back to Yamaha is a brave move and also shows humility. He wants to try and win again. You can't blame him for that.

Could Stoner win on that bike given normal circumstances with all present and correct? I don't believe so. The fire has gone from his belly to continually put his body on the line. He has new, far more important responsibilities and simply would not be prepared to push that bike over the edge like he did before. The gap is probably too great to the Jap bikes in any case now.

The jury is out until next year on whether Rossi's tenure has been a complete disaster for his reputation. What will you say if he starts winning and mounts a challenge for the title and Ducati tread water?

Conversely, the opposite means there is nowhere to run to baby, nowhere to hide. Rossi will know that better than any of us. Expect the clowning to be filed under miscellaneous next year and a re-focussed, motivated, determined rider with a point to prove and a legacy to keep intact.

It's gonna be compelling stuff, love or loathe.

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Firebird3

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Firebird3 says:

Bulto

The Yamaha was known to be a user friendly bike and Ducati wanted a bit of that, that's why they brought in Rossi. They had a bike that only one person could ever ride  (even he was struggling towards the end) and that was no good for them. Unfortunately to get the Ducati like that, something drastic has to be done and they were not prepared to do that.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Wosi

Agreed

Knew you'd come round to my way of thinking....

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Firebird

Your last line

You still maintain that Ducati didn't try and accomodate what Rossi wanted, even though the evidence of change is there for all to see - a perimeter frame being the most obvious.

If your statement was correct they'd still be on the CF design.

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