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Poll: Should you be able to ride whatever bike you want at 17?

Motorcycling licence laws are set to change yet again in January 2013 and motorcyclists starting at the age of 17 could potentially have to take three separate motorcycle tests before they're allowed to ride an unrestricted motorcycle on the road. This is what the new laws mean: Anybody under the age of 19 and at least 17 years old must pass a test and...

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  • Posted 238 days ago (25 September 2012 17:44)

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Homer40

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Homer40 says:

bluehaze60....

......why would someone at 17 be automatically doing 140mph?

......If you can buy a Nissan Skyline or Subaru at 17 what's the difference?

.......You can legally own a shotgun with a licence at age 10

......A riding test is the same for all so unless you are suggesting that the test is not good enough??

......Most fatallities are middle aged 40 - 50 on sports bikes due to the cost of insurance for younger people, i agree with Guzzi and Snev, Training is key.

Also, i thought we lived in a free society and not one run by the PC brigade and the thought police, Main problem with Britain in the last 15 yrs is that we seem to have produced a bunch of wankers who know whats best for you, when really they are failures in their own lives so wish to control every fucker elses.

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  • Posted 237 days ago (25 September 2012 22:11)
triskellion

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triskellion says:

Hi

In the Isle of Man, once you pass your test you can have any bike you want but have to use an "R" (restricted) plate (same for cars), with this you are restricted to 50 mph, if you get caught speeding way over the 50 the penalties are severe and you can lose your licence and have to re take your test. I think this is a good idea as other drivers know an "R" plate is a new driver and they make allowances.

Cheers

Marc     

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  • Posted 237 days ago (25 September 2012 22:11)
paultheexscientist

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paultheexscientist says:

Everyone seems to be missing the obvious, we were all restricted at 17, I know I couldn't legally ride (could never get insurance for) a fireblade at 17, regardless of ability. Car drivers can't drive whatever they want either, no 17 yo could get cover for a Ferrari, even a premiership footballer! No additional restrictions are necessary.

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  • Posted 237 days ago (25 September 2012 22:17)
Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

16

Here if you can ride around some cones in a parking lot without falling over, you can ride any motorcycle at 16.

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 00:19)
Rotop

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Rotop says:

Tiered testing

have a few pass levels for the test. 0-3 errors - no restriction (if you pass an additional written test about hazard avoidance, safe overtaking, motorways bla bla bla) 3-6 errors - 33bhp 6+ errors - 125cc for 2 years.

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 00:36)
matthewdaytona

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matthewdaytona says:

Are you serious!!!

Hell no! can you imagine people at 17 riding motorbikes with unlimited power!? This is only 1 year after they ride 50cc mopeds like lunatic's!

I think the new test laws are predominantly a good thing however i also think the test doesn't really prove much. Training would be of more use.

A test to ride a 125 is stupid, however 2 tests after this is not such a bad idea. I think you shouldnt be allowed to ride a high powered motorcycle unless you have the right mind to use its power sensibly.

Are the facts stated in the article above correct? i thought the direct access was at 24 and that there was no chance of getting a direct access any earlier than that?

Any other method just isnt going to work. 24 is a perfectly respectable age to be riding a fully unrestriced bike. however a test for a 125 is just a money making exercise.

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 08:26)
Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

For fuck's sake, MCN, get it right

There's no "test" at 17, just Compulsory Basic Training.  If you think that's going to change, can you please cite your source, because I've not seen any hint of it.  The last clear statement on it was after the 2010 consultation, where the DfT said we'll be retaining solo L riding.

There's no "at the age of 19, or at the end of those two years".  It's just 19, there's no requirement to have passed any test earlier, and you manage to contradict yourself in the very next paragraph.

Direct Access will now be at 24, not 25.

Don't give up the day job, eh?

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 08:33)
Bob_1

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Bob_1 says:

Certainly

If the training and subsequent testing is done correctly I can't see the problem. Don't think the roads will be full of 17 year-olds on superbikes either, it won't happen. As for idiots on bikes: you see examples of that particular animal at all ages, just read some of the comments on these forums for proof of that. I thought ageism was a crime anyway !!!

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 08:51)
locktab

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locktab says:

differeant points of view

If I was 17 I would be saying whatever bike you like at 17 but being an old git now and knowing what I do I would have to say some stepped progression is needed. What is being put in place at the moment is too complicated and unfair when compaired to cars but unlimited at 17could mean a lot of young people being hurt or killed and more reasons why the people in power can justify the unfair  rules alrteady being planned. 

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 10:14)
slimfastjohn

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slimfastjohn says:

£££££££

If they want more tests to ensure safer riding then I'm all for that, but are the DVLA planning on charging a full test price for each test? Surely it should be a fraction of the cost so it's no more expensive to get a full bike license than it is to get a full car license. Just looked on the Direct.gov website and it says: £15.50 off road test, £75 on road test (weekday)£88 weekend. so for a car license it would be max. £72 for practical test and if new proposals went ahead at these prices, a full unrestricted licence (without lessons) could be a minimum of £240.50, max of £281! And that's if you pass first time on all the tests! Seems a little unfair to me or have I missed something????? :(

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  • Posted 237 days ago (26 September 2012 10:22)

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