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Matthew Birt  says:

MotoGP edging closer to controlled ECU

Plans for MotoGP to switch to a controlled engine management system in 2014 have taken a big step closer today after it was confirmed that Magneti Marelli will make an ECU available to all teams from next season onwards. Dorna has signed a four-year deal with the Italian-based specialist to supply a highly sophisticated ECU that a Dorna statement said would...

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YamahaGYTR

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YamahaGYTR says:

MotoGP has been pissed on ever since the rules went from 990 to 800 and the return to bigger capacity has it made any difference me thinks not.

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MrKrabs

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MrKrabs says:

As long as it gets more bikes on the grid and those bikes are of comparible performance then thats the most important thing, i dont care what make of bike is being ridden so long as the racing is good.

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LouisVR46

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LouisVR46 says:

Unsure

Not sure if this is the best thing fo motogp, i think maybe offering the new ecu to crt would be a better option, if it is compulasory then the big manufacturers such as hrc may pull out, difficult decision.

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fuzzrr

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fuzzrr says:

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"The experience of this company, which has spent many years at the highest level of competition in motor sport, represents a major step in the premier-class of two-wheel racing.”

 

Really???? If they are that good, then why do all the factory teams develop their own electronics???

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

Just another faze

These ecu's available wont stop factory teams getting their own way,the tyre wars in the past have proved rider power rules,it's not wsbk for god sake the teams should be able to use what they test as the most reliable and safe unit with top performance ,Honda always get their own way and supplying engines to moto 2 will let them have a stronger point of view heard than any other factory's. Not good for series at all. I see mr greatest ever racer/mechanIc has made a pathetic comeback,bmx ready at the local park,enjoy sunshine.

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

non intelligent answer

suggests weed smoker, drug abuser or alike, take the pills the doctor gave you sonny you do need them.

back to the electronics topic tho, do you know what an ECU is then benny boy?

have you ever worked on a motorcycle with ecu problems or upgraded needed to be uploaded via usb data controller software? i doubt it , i doubt you have even ridden a motorcyle as you cant answer questions without jealousy and abusive answers that dont cover the fact that in reality you know no more than your next door neighbour does, who in respect is a footy fan.

iv been a motorcycle technician now for over 12 years and i've heard some serious biker bullshit in my time but you sir c0ckbreath of wales have spouted more utter clobber about things you read all day and night pulling your plonker over than anyone on this site or in any pub ever!

if you are who a few of us on here and mcn think you are, which is a failed ex supersport spanner boy who messed it all up with his big gob then your busted sunshine. if you are not then your just lost little one.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

He's a smug bastard is Rossi's Uncle

yet I'm not sure he has anything to be smug about. A GP series based on the Iberian peninsula which is on the verge of burning like Rome at the hands of the Visigoths, and a very (understandably) grumpy major player in HRC who threaten to leave the series.

I agree with Mat Oxley, the FIM need to grow a pair and sit down with the major players to thrash out a set of rules that keep both MotoGP and WSBK distinct from each other. As it stands both series are on a collision course. All of which is deeply ironic given they share an Uberlord in Bridgepoint Capital, a firm that surely doesn't want to see its investment diluted by the merger of two series into one.

The single spec tyre provider hasn't worked in MotoGP to reduce costs. Quite to the contrary manufacturers have spent even more in chassis development to make the tyres work. What on earth make Uncle Carmelo think the same won't happen if he introduces a spec ECU? The big boys will find a way to improve the unit or circumvent it. Money will still be spent in a big way.

Moto2 provides us with great racing but the tech side leaves me cold. I want our premier class to be an open competition of bikes, tyres, manufacturers and component suppliers. A proper market economy, not some socialist dictated loaf of plain brown bread only.

Nor is it in Honda's interest to crush the opposition with spending power. That's nose face spite'ing stuff. Ezpeleta would be very foolish to push them too far. Honda's been the mainstay of GP's for a lot longer than Rossi's clown uncle has been around for.

 

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Carmelo's your man..

21 litres of fuel..

Electronics..Corner by corner mapping. Corner entry strategy. Computers that adjust parameters as they learn as they go.

It's fkin bullshit. It's not racing, it's an economy trial.

It's a race specific game of chess to suit the technical rules that Honda made..the technology will never see the light of day on a production machine because it is irrelevant.

It's not about the rider anymore..it's about who's got the smartest geek in the box and it wants sacking off because it stinks. It's dull and disappoints me every time and it's all Honda's doing..Fuck'em.

Last year at Aragon Stoner won by 8secs..then there was a 6sec gap to 3rd folowed by gaps of 6, 7, 3, 4, 3, 2 seconds to 9th.

Bollocks to the technology..I want some fkin racing.

 

 

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bigbashbonanza

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I'm with you there Wosi

It des m head in every race weekend. I can't wait to watch FP, Qualifying and the race and eight times out of ten, I come aay disappointed. Do away with most of the electronics (TC, anti wheelie and launch control at least) and lets see some tyre smoking, rear wheel steering by all and see who the best guys are on these bikes.

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moany100

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moany100 says:

easy way out

make superbikes essentially modded street bikes er superstock spec which is what they originally were we all benefit because they will all become launch controlled traction controlled wonderbikes.

turn around completely moto gp and make them two stroke monsters with no rider aids these guys are the best of the best they don't need all this hullabalou.

it's been done before i hear you say and yes you'd be right and it worked, two strokes by far a less costly alternative no two hundred grand electronics and billet everything two strokes cost zilch in comparison and whilst i will agree modern gp bikes are far safer and more reliable they have definately lost the wow factor that made sure i couldn't ride one quickly but gp gods could now please i'm not saying that i could run with stoner on a modern gp bike but i'd be alot closer than i would than i would on a 500 to sheene

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