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Matthew Birt  says:

MotoGP edging closer to controlled ECU

Plans for MotoGP to switch to a controlled engine management system in 2014 have taken a big step closer today after it was confirmed that Magneti Marelli will make an ECU available to all teams from next season onwards. Dorna has signed a four-year deal with the Italian-based specialist to supply a highly sophisticated ECU that a Dorna statement said would...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Is he really Wosi?

Dorna has signed a four-year deal with the Italian-based specialist to supply a highly sophisticated ECU that a Dorna statement said would be the ‘highest technological option' in Magneti Marelli’s portfolio.

Uncle Caramello Bar's agenda is nothing like you suggest. He is merely trying to wrest power from the MSMA and have it all in his own hands. Classic meglomania syndrome.

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wosihound says:

Dorna are the organisers, not Honda.

He's already wrested power back from them Nostro, by not renewing the previous agreement he had with them to make the rules, which elapsed at the start of this year and is the real reason Honda have their knickers in a twist.

He's trying to make the racing closer by levelling the playing field to compete, for the race teams. He's had enough of broken promises, shrinking grids and dull racing..me too.

Why don't the MSMA make last years bikes available to buy..rather than sending them to the crusher?

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Correct Wosi

Series organisers, not rule makers. Even though Ezpeleta seems to now have this power by default. Again to revert to one of my original points on this thread, the FIM are the ones that need to step up to the plate and resolve this drift.

What broken promises by HRC? You're talking whimpy Suzuki or spineless Kawasaki, a couple of global manufacturing juggernauts, not Honda. HRC have been the mainstay of this series for a very long time. I believe this provides them with the moral mandate to have a say in the direction the sport is heading. Unless of course you don't want them there like that underdeveloped entity Saturn below.

As for this supposed link that many on here state between reduced electronics and closer racing. I'd love someone the explain the dynamics behind this dim little assertion.

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

Honda

Mr nakamoto stated hrc spent over 5million euro's on their own electronics development so seeing dorna and uncle carmello put this in place for 2014 you can see why they maybe annoyed a little when crt teams get this for free, Other point I heard was the rev limit restriction to only 15,500 rpm will affect the Ducati desmo engine the most as the design works best with higher revs given its valve set up. But I guess most of you already new that.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Nostro knew that Foggy - He knows everything!  

And Nostro I've never said I don't want Honda there - I do - I want all the major factories there but I don't subscribe the the view that being the major capital investor or the mainstay of the series gives them the moral right to anything!   It's an arrogant view.  You would understand that wouldn't you Nostro.  As for reduced electronics and closer racing I think BSB may give us a clue.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ah Saturn, so simplistic

You fall into the classic trap there with your BSB claptrap. The riding level is lower thereby more can compete. It's pretty simple to comprehend if you put your mind to it.

Of course I knew that, half the forum members would. 'Valve set-up'  - nice technician expose from our resident grease monkey.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

It's beaurocracy that destroys the simplicity and all I'm saying is MotoGp can and will survive without Honda.   As for BSB more riders now capable of finishing top 6 than before.

 

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

Nostro

I love it when u talk dirty....... Camshafts !!!!

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

You're all missing the point.

The technology should actually carry on being developed, not dumbed down as most people here are suggesting. This is prototype racing and anything less demeans the championship, just ask Stoner. We all want closer racing, but the advancement of systems designed to aid the rider shouldn't be seen as a ball and chain for GP's. As we know, the real issue for Dorna is the financial implication of all this development - they need to focus their attention on somehow getting blue chip companies involved to channel in more money, not bullshit like a controlled ECU. Obviously easier said than done, but there's a huge potential to be tapped into, particularly in emerging economies like India and China. GP's have to go there, not fuck about in Spain for 3 or 4 races where there's no money! There are enough production based championships doing a great job of entertaining us, for it to survive, MotoGP has got to keep developing..

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Concise and eloquently put CHR and I could not disagree.    What we seem to have is those with money can develop superior systems which set them apart from the 'poorer' teams which in turn creates an elite top three or four with the rest just racing for places 20 seconds behind.  We do need rider aids and systems which close the gap between the elite rich and the not so rich and we do need continued development.     Carmello may be an arrogant so and so but he's trying to maintain a 'show' for fans like me.  If the fans lose interest there is no show and no further development. The average Jo Public do not want to see a high speed test bed for superior electronics.

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