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Michael Guy  says:

WSB Magny Cours: Sykes win race two, Biaggi wins title by 0.5points

Tom Sykes did everything he could to wrestle the WSB crown away from Italian Max Biaggi, but was ultimately denied the title by just 0.5 points. In a tense finish to the 2012 WSB season, Biaggi finished in fifth place which was just enough to secure the big prize and his sixth world title and second WSB crown. Sykes said: “On...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Progress?

It's only juvenile because you'd like to have Casey's babies..

What's misleading and false in the comment CHR? You're twitching pal.. 

Nobody was blaming Stoner solely..like you and a few of your chummy cohorts are Rossi?

If Rossi has to take the can for the last two years, surely Stoner must share some responsibility during his four year tenure, given the evidence?

Stoner didn't progress while at Ducati, despite the bike still winning end of season races in his hands.

It could be argued that after ripping it all up to start again, a very slow process that had to be done during the season last year, Ducati are at last beginning to make a lttle progress with their new bike, aginst competition that has progressed out of sight.

Perhaps you think they should go back to the CF bike..or the steel trellis? It's clear they don't.

Stop being such a one-eyed fanboy.

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CH987

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CH987 says:

Max

Give Max a well set up, competitive bike and he is world class and can beat anyone. What his achilies heal has always been is give him a poorly set up bike and he struggles. He struggled this weekend on probably the worst bike for the conditions but still did enough. A deserved winner and still the class of the field. Why do you think Lorenzo was there picking up tips.

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Twpsyn

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Twpsyn says:

Wisdom

Some very well informed gents sitting at the table I note!

 

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Wosi. One eyed fanboy!..

...It makes me laugh, your fair and reasoned posts are as rare as rocking horse shit! It's hurt you badly that Rossi just couldn't get it to work on the Ducati and you continually look at ways of trying to disguise that fact. If there was progress being made Wosi, as you go on to suggest, why is Valentino high tailing it back to Yamaha with his tail between his legs?..

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Sensible CHR..

Because Ducati won't put stabilisers on the D16..fkin useless b'stard, why do you think?

You talk about disguise?..

 

What are your thoughts on Casey riding around problems instead of giving decent development feedback? 

Crashing so often in his last year?

Preziosi offering to quit after admitting the bike wasn't good enough on bended knee to Furasawa?

C'mon mate..try and put together a reasonable comment and address the valid points wosi's raised?

Once you're done, I've a few more. 

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Development Feedback..

C'mon Wosi, get a grip and pull your head out of Valentino's backside. You know full well that the respective development budgets are/were entirely different - the vast sums thrown at Rossi these past 2 seasons overshadow anything ever offered to Stoner. Rossi and Burgess also came with the weight of development expectation and were given the free reign to work on the bike Stoner never was ( he didn't have the respect that came with Valentino and his team ) Casey's only real option was to try and ride around the problems with the bike, something that has been borne out by many of his teammates, Melandri being the obvious example. Mate, you really are as useful as a cunt full of cold water at times...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Help me out pal..?

These Vast sums seem to have dried up this year CHR? Ducati have brought nothing to table of note. What are/were these figures mate..to clarify?

Casey's on record as saying he pretty much got what he asked for..apart from the Carbon Fibre bike earlier than it was rolled out. Ducati have confirmed this. That bike netted him 7 wins in two years next to 16 for the steel trellis D16 it replaced? That's regression by anybody's book..why?

What about Preziosi/Furusawa?

Why did he stack it 5 times in the final season?

Saying..he didn't have the respect that came with Valentino and his team, while true..sounds like you're starting to accept the bike wasn't really competitive, or is it an excuse?

 

 

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Paycut.

Rossi was reportedly making 15million Euros a year with Ducati. How much was Stoner earning?...he's now reported to be worth around $14million US, so relatively speaking not much. I don't know the exact figures Ducati have put in to the project these past 2 seasons, but given all the technological R&D as well as the numerous updates, it can't be short change. In answer to your question, no I don't think the bike was entirely competitive, but that isn't the issue. The issue is having to defend a position of attack by ridiculous one sided opinion, like: "That bike netted him 7 wins in two years next to 16 for the steel trellis D16 it replaced? That's regression by anybody's book..why?" Wosi, the carbon fibre bike has long gone, but we're still nowhere..why? Give Stoner the break he deserves and you'll probably find a more receptive audience..

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Paycut.

Rossi was reportedly making 15million Euros a year with Ducati. How much was Stoner earning?...he's now reported to be worth around $14million US, so relatively speaking not much. I don't know the exact figures Ducati have put in to the project these past 2 seasons, but given all the technological R&D as well as the numerous updates, it can't be short change. In answer to your question, no I don't think the bike was entirely competitive, but that isn't the issue. The issue is having to defend a position of attack by ridiculous one sided opinion, like: "That bike netted him 7 wins in two years next to 16 for the steel trellis D16 it replaced? That's regression by anybody's book..why?" Wosi, the carbon fibre bike has long gone, but we're still nowhere..why? Give Stoner the break he deserves and you'll probably find a more receptive audience..

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CHRainmaker

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CHRainmaker says:

Wosi, just to clarify..

A bit of digging around found this..Should explain all you need to know..http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/valentino-rossi-ducati-analysis/

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