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Poll: Should full riding kit be a legal requirement?

Helmets are currently the only item of protective clothing which must be worn while riding a motorcycle in the UK, although in some places around the globe no protective clothing is required. Is a helmet enough, or should we legally have to wear more? pollcomment

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billysollocks

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Without wishing to cause offence or be regarded as stirring things up for the sake of it, how do vegan bikers get on with buying safety kit, as a lot of it is made of leather? It's not an issue I'd really thought of before, but this  discussion has poked the old grey matter somewhat and got me wondering. I have the utmost respect for animal rights, I prefer animals to people, but I have a curious mind, so please indulge an old phart.  

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hairyMuppet

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hairyMuppet says:

@mercymercyred

Lay-off the fallacious straw-man would you?
I never said I don't want to pay, I said I wasn't sure if I wanted to pay.  The reason I couched it in those terms was precisely because of the slippery-slope.  And it was only one part of a larger argument.
Insurance companies can already refuse to cover all medical costs if they think your kit was insufficient (assuming any kit was being worn).  Another reason to wear all the gear.

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jahagon

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jahagon says:

Teenage dream

As a teenager I would have loved to have had all the right gear. Unfortunately it's just too expensive. I ended up with a cheap helmet, Dad's old jacket and gloves. My mates were exactly the same.

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mickleblade

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mickleblade says:

would price people out

The legal definition would have to be CE marked kit.  However, most jackets only have CE armour NOT the jacket itself.  So we'd all have to buy a new set of leathers, also winter kit.  As it would be hideously expensive because of the product homologisation costs (jacket, jeans, boots, gloves, summer and winter kit) we'd all need to cough up about £2000 each.  It'd be the death of biking.

My loverly dianese 2 piece becomes unusable, so do the £200 Alpinestars waterproof boots (well, as waterproof as teabags really), the only thing I could keep is the helmet .

Also, if you've ever tried riding a bike in Spain or France in the summer you'd know that heat exhaustion is the greater danger.

 

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ANichol

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ANichol says:

@Tito Why are

equally dangerous things like horse riding or skiing exempt from such rigorous oversight?

Find an average horseist or skiist and check the bank balance. That's yer answer.

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muddybus

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muddybus says:

Why, why, why...

Why do most riders think that if they ride sensibly, they'll never be involved in an accident? What if a 3rd party doesn't drive/ride sensibly and hits you? Diesel on the road? Wild animal runs out in front of you? These and more could cause you serious injury, and none are your fault, so why would anyone who isn't yet paralyzed from the neck up refuse to wear protective clothing when riding a motorbike?

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Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

CE Certification?

Not everyone agrees with the standard.

www.aerostich.com/protection

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Piglet2010

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Piglet2010 says:

Vegan Gear?

In the US, both Aerostich and Motoport make textile riding suits sturdy enough to be allowed for track use at many schools, track days, and even some racing. Similarly, textile gloves suitable for high-speed riding are available. Boots are easy, with companies such as SiDi making then out of synthetic leather substitutes (e.g. Lorica™).

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ChimneyPortions

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Luckyskua

Are you for real.  When I was younger I highsided my X7 at 70mph before rolling down the road for 50 metres (I think it was 'yards' back then) before coming to a stop in a ditch, unconscious with the bike on top of me. The only protective clothing I was wearing was jeans, a denim jacket and a helmet but the only injury was a cut chin and elbow and I was back at school the next day.

Obviously I was lucky but don't think every little accident is going to cause life threatening injuries.

Helmets save lives but anything else should be up to the individual, like Tito'sfuneral said how do you justify making someone spend 20 minutes getting geared up to drive half a mile to buy a loaf of bread - Seacrest Out.

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