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Matthew Birt  says:

Motegi MotoGP: Seventh maximum potential, admits Valentino Rossi

Valentino Rossi says he could have not ridden any faster or put in any extra effort after he ended the Grand Prix of Japan at the Twin Ring Motegi in a lonely and distant seventh. The Italian said finishing a massive 26 seconds behind race winner Dani Pedrosa was the maximum potential his factory Ducati GP12 has, with a lack of...

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COZ69

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COZ69 says:

ElDiablo73

Well said

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

17kmph faster for one race only

Typical thick blinkered little Oompa Loompa. Please tell me all about Loris Capirossi's 2007 season. You know the guy voted the best rider of 2006 by his peers.

Rossi is nothing but a mid packer now our little spanish devil, other riders have extended the level required beyond your fallen sun gods means. Get used to it.

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wosihound says:

There's dumber..then there's Nostrodumbarse.

Burgess has said he intends to follow Rossi. Jarvis is expecting Jerry and the boys..there is nothing to be tight lipped about? 

Casey Stoner is a great rider but seems confused as to the reasons he's retiring. Some of his fans are hurt and could do with taking their own advice by tucking the flapping bottom lip in.

Just as the series is set to dumb down the bikes, giving riders back all the control, Stoner shies away from dumbing up his game and competing without the electronics that have served him so well. As a rider, he has relied on inheriting top level factory machinery to achieve the majority of his success in just two years..2007 & 2011.

He's been in MotoGP SEVEN years and 20 of his 37 wins came in those TWO years, when he had bikes handed to him that had fuck all to do with his development input.

He took Ducati down a dead end street after begging them for the carbon fibre bike and, as Dani has proved this year, he's done the same on his side of the garage with the RCV by refusing upgrades and taking an almost peverse pleasure trying to prove he can ride anything fast on pure talent alone.

His fans don't give a shit that he's crashed himself out of championship contention on a regular basis, it's all about the wins..innit?

Twenty out of Thirty-Seven in Two out of Seven!.. and Rossi's supposed to be the lucky one? Hahaha

If he'd never moved to Honda and stayed at Ducati..there would have been NO new shiny ally beam framed bike and he would have been sucking his food through a straw long ago.

Stoners Ducati is dead thank fk, long live Rossi's Ducati..which gives them hope going forward but only if the Germans sack the incumbent divvies in the design department, starting with Preziosi.

 

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rocketri17

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WOSI

Well said.

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Wosi...

"He's been in MotoGP SEVEN years and 20 of his 37 wins came in those TWO years, when he had bikes handed to him that had fuck all to do with his development input."

Rossi's had full input into this version of the Ducati... they've virtually built it to his spec (not)... how many wins?... & how long was Stoner battling with the same lack of development that Rossi is currently enjoying?... & how many wins? Yep... the figures speak for themselves... thanks for reminding us.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Boo-Hoo..

Rossi this, Rossi that, Rossi the other..Yawn!

What about Stoner's backward results and fucko brained development feedback, you orange ponce?

Why's he quitting citing dumb bikes and Carmelo's new rules when he's got the chance to show us all how good is without rider aids and it was his paymaster Honda who made the rules that fucked the job up?

He's a fruitcake.

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Bultoboy

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Wosi

Get real you plank - what's this shite...

Stoners Ducati is dead thank fk, long live Rossi's Ducati..

For a start, you know too well that the CF bike wasn't born out of a direct request from Stoner

The new shiny framed bike that Rossi did ask for, is as far back in the results as the CF bike he was 'brought in to improve'. The messages he has sent out during the past two years are the very definition of confusion with contradiction following contradiction. The newish frame with new swingarm at the recent test was heralded as a huge improvement in rear grip and getting power down. Misano he got 2nd - the yellow canaries were tweeting Rossi's back, Rossi's fixed the Duke. Wiser people said let's wait and see. Sure enough, the next two races were a return to normal without the luxury of 2 full days set-up time. Now he's complaining of a lack of rear grip again. Seems to me he doesn't have the nouse to set the bike up in the time available on race weekends. Maybe the bike could hit the front with someone who could do that...

He reckons he can now maintain a constant pace to the end of the race with the new swingarm. Remember when he was forced to use Hayden's set-up early in the season - he actually put in quicker times towards the end of the race.

Fact is, they are no nearer the front than when he first sat on the CF bike back in 2010. Development god my arse.

Burgess last word on moving to Yamaha was that he hadn't decided or even thought about it and anyway 'no-one's asked me'.

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ElDiablo73

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ElDiablo73 says:

Nostradamus,

1st of all watch your language when you are adressing to me as we are not friends and I demand a minimum of respect or in your case education. I never adressed to you using any adjectives or comical comments.

Now, talking business, Stoner was very fast on the Duke when the Duke was fastest than the others. 

When Honda and Yamaha did the jump on performance Ducati stayed back and Stoner started complaining that no work on evolvement was made. He could not win any more titles with that. Thats one of the reasons he jumped to Honda.

Now he is retiring. He is retiring because he is afraid of diying like Simoncelli. He is retiring because he has a daughter and he is afraid of letting her alone. he is retiring because of the pressure from Adriana. He is retiring because he wants to be divine like Rossi but he does not have the aura (+ more 7 World Titles). He is retiring because he is not as strong as his competitors - mentally not physically. He is retiring because Rossi is so loved all over the World that he cannot cope with that. He is retiring because people criticise them while thei forgot Rossi's mistakes. He is retiring because people started to like Ducati because of Rossi.

But he forgots one thing: VR is magic with the media and his fans, MotoGP is 50% Valentino (hope Marquez will cover the empty spot when gone). Stoner was always very reserved, very closed and always moaning... In a love affair both have to work to mantain the fire and Stoner forgot that... (he will have plenty of time to reconsider while fishing).

Stoner broke under pressure, he is a looser that cannot take criticism. Rossi is Rossi, one of the best of all times. Actually he is the best of all times because competition was always strong and please i don't want to hear anything about the demanding era of the 4 strokes. Fuck it. 2 strokes, 120kg and no traction. BIG BALLS.

If Stoner wants to be(at) Rossi he should stay and fight and try to win another 7 times. If any of you thinks that Stoner could win again on the Duke you are blinded by your anti-Rossi attitude. No one can win in that piece of lump anymore. Let's see what you will say next year when VR46 wins the title again.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Bulto..

Softlad..

When asked about the backward results on the CF bike, all Stoner ever says is.."You never rode the trellis frame." The pipe frame was like spaghetti according to him and he wanted a stiffer bike. Well he got what he wanted.

He BEGGED for the bike in 2008..to have it early. Why did he win 16 on the steel bike and only 7 on the CF Bulto?..Explain please.

Hayden is on record as saying he didn't agree with Stoner always wanting everything so rigid as it sacrificed feel. He also says the current iteration is the best Ducati he's ridden but it's clearly still not good enough, mainly because they have designed the new chassis around that old dinosaur of an engine. They can't get the basic geometry and balance in the Japanese ball-park.

Explain Furasawa's visit?

Both Hayden and Rossi know what a good bike feels like. Stoner didn't as he was an inexperienced young kid who spent his first season crashing his brains out on the 990 RCV..some things never change, eh?

He didn't have the nouse and rode around shit, something he prefers to do to this day instead of racking up testing mileage.

Explain to us why Dani is and was doing better than him, before he flicked himself into orbit, twisting his ankle, after such a dominant display last year that had you all creaming your orange panties?

Most of the stuff HRC brought this year has been left in the back of his race truck. Dani worked with it and got better.

Explain why his results always seem to go backwards pal?

 

Oh..and Burgess will be at Yamaha, to fck another one of your conspiracy theories and leave you clutching at straws..AGAIN!

OOOOH! the pain..hahaha.

Where are you going to hide next year if VR46 isn't the talentless, lucky bastard you keep trying to convince yourself he is?

What you gonna do if he spanks Pedrosa on the RCV..the man who wasted your hero Stoner on the same bike?

Where will your credibility lie if Ducati don't podium?

Pray it don't hapen pal..Go on. Down on your knees..hahaha.

 

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ElDiablo73

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ElDiablo73 says:

Nice said.

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