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Nostrodamus

that's funny, I'm not in on this article, but I love the word 'pikey' it conjures up 2 gits in a tatty old, un-licensed long wheel based transit, offering to tarmac your drive, as a special for £100, and when they leave, the tarmac's as thick as clingfilm, and they've taken your wrought Iron gates with them, lol.   

Buell

The way you worded your post made out that Doohan did not want it but Rossi did and that was not the case!!!

The bit you're overlooking is that I am quoting what Burgess said, it isn't my opinion or the way I worded anything - he said Doohan didn't want them, which means they had to be available for him not to want them

You seem to have his ear - ask him if this is what he said - and this was 1995 so imagine what was available for 2000/2001. Variable mapping for the rider to control and traction control.

The world champ rejected them all: water injection for improved mid-range power, an anti-wheelie device for easier starts, semi-active suspension and so on.

I don't really care

what you or anyone said because I know the facts and I am fairly sure you do too but you are just doing your usual.
Maybe you just like an argument although it is far more likely you come out with all this crap because of your feelings for one rider and his crew chief.

Buel

Don't tell me, you were in the paddock alongside Burgess and Doohan too...  If you don't care why do you persist?

I really, truly, don't understand your agenda. ElDiablo made some spectacularly wild and absurd remarks about the reasons one rider is retiring and went on to pour scorn over that rider and every other by stating Rossi is 50% Motogp, insinuating the rest are worth sod all. This is utter cock. He then trotted out the usual GOAT crap, insinuating today's riders have it easy and how Rossi earned his wins against proper competition in the days of unassisted 2-strokes. Funny how Rossi is asking for more and more electronics to tame his Ducati - the one Stoner rode with them turned right down.

So. it's his comments I'm responding to, not having an unsolicited pop at your hero - understand.

If you think electronic aids weren't availble in the 500 2-stroke days, you're not as close to the paddock as you claim. In the year of our lord 2000 I bought, over the counter, a 2 stage programmable CDI for my enduro bike. I could map in whatever curves I wanted and I had a 2 position switch on the bars to change between the two maps. That's me, an amateur off-road racer. Imagine what Honda had available then.

Burgess I have nothing against. He is quoted as saying Doohan rejected 'all the toys' and he was glad he got to play with them when Rossi joined. Look it up if you can't remember that particular conversation - perhaps you were busy ogling the grid girls. Doohan was rejecting these in 1995. Remember the electronics Honda had in F1 back in the 80s?

Doohan was well known for not messing with his bike when there was no need. Once he had got Honda to build the bike how he wanted it, it stayed the same for about 4 years, his attitude being if I'm winning it isn't broken so don't try to fix it. He didn't want the electronics. In 1999 he had a new frame, the biggest change in years.

If you have a problem with this, you need to get in touch with Benny and find out who his psychiatrist is - you need him as you have issues....

How old are you? The 500's got a basic traction control in the last 2-3 years of their life. Valentino rode the beast and won long before that!

The new PS3 generation bikes might be safer but any mid-pack rider became a player... The game has always been about grip, first it was the tyres (Bridgestone vs crap Michelin) and now the ECU!

VR46 and Hayden are both complaining about wheel spin and not being able to utilize the power compared to the others. Of course he wants better traction! If you can win the beast you have to feed it!!

Are you a fisherman? I love fish, my problem is with moaning fisherman Stoner. Didn't meant to offend. Sorry.