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Matthew Birt  says:

Motegi MotoGP: Seventh maximum potential, admits Valentino Rossi

Valentino Rossi says he could have not ridden any faster or put in any extra effort after he ended the Grand Prix of Japan at the Twin Ring Motegi in a lonely and distant seventh. The Italian said finishing a massive 26 seconds behind race winner Dani Pedrosa was the maximum potential his factory Ducati GP12 has, with a lack of...

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buelligan272

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buelligan272 says:

I don't really care

what you or anyone said because I know the facts and I am fairly sure you do too but you are just doing your usual.
Maybe you just like an argument although it is far more likely you come out with all this crap because of your feelings for one rider and his crew chief.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

El Diablo

you're a lightweight like old Buelli. List these supposed Rossi bashing Stoner 'stupidities'. There's quite a list of Rossi 'stupidities' that have bitten him hard on the arse in the last two years. Would you like me to recount them? I'm more than happy to.

Stoner's reasons for retirement are well documented and do not include your kid and fear of dying opinions. Try reasons like;

- I never intended to stay in this sport for a long time (however it's reasonable to suggest a lifetime of racing, 23 years, is just that) although his comment was more GP specific.

- Rules instability and the impending arrival of dumbed down Uncle Carmelo marshmallow bikes. Casey wants the ultimate hit. Any methadone version of his GP crack is not going to feel quite as good.

That's the problem with Oompa Loompa's, just about every comment is invented fiction.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Buel

Don't tell me, you were in the paddock alongside Burgess and Doohan too...  If you don't care why do you persist?

I really, truly, don't understand your agenda. ElDiablo made some spectacularly wild and absurd remarks about the reasons one rider is retiring and went on to pour scorn over that rider and every other by stating Rossi is 50% Motogp, insinuating the rest are worth sod all. This is utter cock. He then trotted out the usual GOAT crap, insinuating today's riders have it easy and how Rossi earned his wins against proper competition in the days of unassisted 2-strokes. Funny how Rossi is asking for more and more electronics to tame his Ducati - the one Stoner rode with them turned right down.

So. it's his comments I'm responding to, not having an unsolicited pop at your hero - understand.

If you think electronic aids weren't availble in the 500 2-stroke days, you're not as close to the paddock as you claim. In the year of our lord 2000 I bought, over the counter, a 2 stage programmable CDI for my enduro bike. I could map in whatever curves I wanted and I had a 2 position switch on the bars to change between the two maps. That's me, an amateur off-road racer. Imagine what Honda had available then.

Burgess I have nothing against. He is quoted as saying Doohan rejected 'all the toys' and he was glad he got to play with them when Rossi joined. Look it up if you can't remember that particular conversation - perhaps you were busy ogling the grid girls. Doohan was rejecting these in 1995. Remember the electronics Honda had in F1 back in the 80s?

Doohan was well known for not messing with his bike when there was no need. Once he had got Honda to build the bike how he wanted it, it stayed the same for about 4 years, his attitude being if I'm winning it isn't broken so don't try to fix it. He didn't want the electronics. In 1999 he had a new frame, the biggest change in years.

If you have a problem with this, you need to get in touch with Benny and find out who his psychiatrist is - you need him as you have issues....

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

ElDiablo

You are compairing 2012 MotoGPs Traction with what they used in 2001?

Don't be ridiculous, you know I am not comparing. You said there were no electronics. on the 500 2-strokes. There were.

If I recall correctly, they use to say that Vale is more sensible and reacts before the ECU...

If I recall correctly it's Rossi who is asking for more and more electronics to help him ride the Ducati

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ha, ha the irony our childish Spanish devil

Any mid packer? How many mid fielders have leapt out of the pack and won this year? I can think of a yellow one that certainly hasn't despite being on a very competitive factory machine.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

ElDiablo

Oh dear. Any credibility for a reasoned argument just disappeared in your last comment

The 500's got a basic traction control in the last 2-3 years of their life. Valentino rode the beast and won long before that!

The last 2 to 3 years of the 500 2-strokes were 1999 - 2001 - just when he was riding them...... He was on 125 and 250 long before that.

And I didn't say traction control specifically, I said electronics.

As for Rossi and electronic aids on the Ducati, of course he needs them, it's not an issue as the bikes now are unrideable without some form of electronic aid . The issue is people like you making crazy statements that Rossi is so sensitive with the throttle he's above the rest. Clearly not the case when he uses more electronics than the previous Ducati rider.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Orange numptie club chums..

Nostro and Bulto..

It's just been confirmed Rossi's crew will be at Yamaha with him.

Ooooh the pain, the heart-ache...hahaha.

Any more clutching at straws and conspiracy bollox to make you look even dafter than you are..if possible?

Get used to it suckers..it's all down hill for you monkeys from here on in. 

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COZ69

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COZ69 says:

lol nostro

'I can think of a yellow one that certainly hasn't despite being on a very competitive factory machine'

the yellow one is on a pig Dukakie.

competitive!! have you had a knock to the head?

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