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JShone

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JShone says:

Are New Tyres Slippery

I can't see a thread on this subject so wanted to get an expert opinion on a situation I am currently in.

A few months ago I decided to get in to motorbikes. Without any previous experience or knowledge about motorbikes I took my CBT.

The following week I went to a well known motorbike dealership and told them I wanted a 125 motorbike. They recommended one to me which I subsequently purchased and had delivered.

When it was delivered I took it for too rides in the sunshine and did about 30 miles, then 3 days after receiving it I took it out in the evening after it had stopped raining. Just coming of a roundabout the back wheel slipped and the bike tipped and I wrote the bike of and injured myself.

Here is my concern, up until this point I was sat at the side of the road thinking I’m never going to ride a bike again but when the recovery truck came the mechanic took one look at the bike and said “no wonder you came of it mate, new tyres need scrubbing in and yours still have the bobbles on them, new tyres are notoriously slippery” He also told me how he has ridden bikes all his life and every time he gets new tyres the garage warns him to go steady for the first 100miles.

Now I took my bike to a garage three days later, when I was able to walk again properly, and I asked the owner about slippery new tyres and he echoed the words of the recovery agent. I also went to another motorbike dealership and talked to the manager who also agreed with the fact tyres need scrubbing in.

All this has left me puzzled as at no point during the selection purchase and handover of my new bike was any safety advice given. Also, there was a sticker on the tank saying read the manual before use, but no where in the 4 pages of safety advice does it mention tyre scrub in or slippery tyres at all.

I would like to know MCN’s expert opinion on whether there is a hazard with new tyres

 

Regards

 

Jonathan

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cairnsie13

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cairnsie13 says:

I think you

will have a hard time legally as you would have to prove that the tyres were the definate cause which i dont see how you would.

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kcmc

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kcmc says:

Hope

your on a no win no fee deal:huh:

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bbstrikesagain

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Sadly for you

The dealer's responsibility would be to sell a product fit for purpose, of merchantable quality and free from minor defect.  As all bikes have new tyres that offer very little grip until scrubbed in, I doubt whether he failed in his duty under Sale of Goods.  Maybe he didn't follow best practice over the warnings, but maybe you didn't follow best practice on the road?

 Maybe you should take it on the chin as a literally painful learning exercise?

Nowadays is there no mention of this issue at CBT?

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arryace

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arryace says:

Rider Error

the dealer is not liable unless you can prove he misinformed you.

you had ridden it twice before without issue you then rode it on a wet road and crashed.

this was most likely down to your inexperience.

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lugsonia

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lugsonia says:

unfortunately

i agree i dont think you will get far with this as his job isnt to teach you how to ride a bike, thats what your cbt or full license are far. It is a harsh situation as dealers should be obliged to tell you about things that may cause problems for new riders out of courtesy and biker code. However like the others have said if he has sold you a bike that works with tyres that have full grip and performance potential he has done his job as far as the company go.In addition as someone mentioned earlier there is no way to prove that it was tyres rather than over confidence that was at fault which im guessing would be thier line of defence.


i hope your insurance can cover your losses and that you will continue to ride.

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SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

Jonathan: New tyres

A new tyre will need the rider to treat it cautiously for 50-100 miles, depending on conditions.  That's because you've got a tyre with less than normal working grip.

Two new tyres isn't just double the trouble, it's 100-fold.   If having a new tyre is like walking around with one boot and one roller-skate all of a sudden, you can imagine if instead of having two boots, you were given a roller-skate on each foot.

Compound that problem if it's a new bike.  You're not used to that bike, not used to its balance, or even its controls, and you haven't got reliable tyres either.

Add to it yet still, a new rider who doesn't even know how to ride bikes very well.  Less still an unfamiliar bike.  And even less still, with nice, shiny, slippy-brand-new tyres.

If such an unfortunate set of dangerous conditions were to coincide, I'd have to be having a laugh not to advise that person to REALLY take it easy for 1000 miles or so.

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