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Pete Baker  says:

What to do if you’re ‘first on scene’ to a motorcycle accident

In support of Road Safety Week – 9 to 25 November, BASICS Scotland has issued a list of top 10 first aid tips for motorcyclists that could help save a life. Compiled by Kevin McCloskey, a Senior Staff Nurse in Orthopaedics and Trauma at Forth Valley Royal Hospital, Kevin is an instructor for the charity and has also worked in...

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SlowLearner

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SlowLearner says:

"First on scene"

I've been the first on the scene a couple of times myself after crashing there :lol:

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venturer

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venturer says:

traffic management

I think traffic management should be higher up the list, there is no way anyone should put themselves in danger trying to help a victim, to then become one or park there bike in a location that will cause further accidents.

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Rogerborg

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Rogerborg says:

Agreed about traffic management

This is a great article, but rule #1 is don't become a casualty yourself.

I've experienced this, with a couple of prats standing around arguing over liability and calling their insurers while their vehicles were still blocking the road on a blind bend - only my God-like skills had kept me out of their pile up.  Look at the whole scene, see what you need to do to stop it getting any worse, and get it done.

Better to be flapping your arms at traffic than flapping your gums trying to issue "orders".

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ducatigav

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ducatigav says:

lucky when ever i been 1st there is normaly been ok so you ask them if there ok followed by how the bike then take the piss

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chrisyzf

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chrisyzf says:

EMERGENCY

IF AN ACIDENT IS SERIOUS ENOUGH FOR STEPS 1 TO4 TO BE FOLLOWED, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DELAYING UNTIL STEP 5 TO CALL FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE INJURED PERSON.

CALL FOR EMERGENCY HELP FIRST BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING, AS ANY DELAY IS CRITTICAL.

EVEN IF THE INJURED PERSON SEEMS OK, THEY SHOULD ALWAYS BE SEEN BY MEDICAL STAFF AS INJURIES ARE NOT ALWAYS AS SHOWN ON TV.

EG YOUNG RIDER CRASHED, GOT UP WITH HELP AS HE SHOWED NO SIGN OF ANY INJURY, LEND AGAINST THE HEDGE AND CALL HIS DAD TO TELL HIM THAT HE HAD CRASHED AND WHERE, BEFORE HE FINISHED HIS CONVERSATION THE LAD DIED WHILE STILL ON THE PHONE TO HIS DAD. WHEN HIS DAD GOT THERE ALONG WITH POLICE AND AMBULANCE HE WAS STANDING UP LEANING AGAINST THE HEDGE. WHEN INVESTIGATED HE HAD SERVERED THE FEMORAL ARTERY AT THE TOP OF HIS LEG, NOT SIGN OF INJURY ANY WHERE AND DIED OF MASSIVE INTERNAL BLEEDING.

SO UNLESS YOU ARE A QUALIFED PARAMEDIC OR DOCTOR AND ABLE TO ASSESS INJURIES THEN PLEASE CALL EMERGENCY SERVICES FIRST OR SEND SOMEONE TO DO IT FOR YOU AND GET THEM TO COME BACK TO YOU AND TELL YOU THEY HAVE DONE IT, AS OFTEN YOU COULD BE IN AN AREA WITH OUT SIGNAL.

USE 112 FROM MOBILE AS THIS WILL HELP IN LOCATING WHERE YOU ARE CALLING FROM

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Histy

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Histy says:

Helmet Removal

I Disagree with removing the helmet. Its not safe for just anyone to remove a helmet. I certainly wouldn't want anyone who isn't trained to remove my helmet and risk being paralysed. Also removing a helmet safely is a two man job.

Histy - www.kkridertraining.co.uk

 

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DBF80

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DBF80 says:

Histy

I partly agree that helmet removal is a two man job but I think if the casualty is not brathing then helmet removal is a necessity. You might be willing to wait the minutes until the ambulance arrives but the casualty will probably not have that long. The caveat given above is wholly appropriate. If the casualty is breathing then leave the helmet on, if they are not then are more pressing things to deal with than a potential back or neck injury. You may not want to live paralysed but then the person at the scene cannot assume that.

The actions above are what I was taught by St Johns Ambulance.

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chriswren

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chriswren says:

If I'm the first to a motorcycle accident hmmmmm I normally lay there as still as possible, crying for my mommy and waiting for the ambulance to turn up.

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occytherp

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occytherp says:

first biker on the scene

if you get the chance I recommend going on a specialist course, I went on one run by the Lancashire Ambulance service called first biker on the scene. It shows you how to protect the crash site and detect serious injuries,you are taught how remove a helmet if you have to and protect the "C" spine in the process. They stress this is only in the most severe cases of injury and with two people, one removing the lid and the other supporting the neck. Thankfully I have not had to use these skills yet.

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ChimneyPortions

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Do you steal the wallet before or after you call the ambulance?

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