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Matthew Birt  says:

Valentino Rossi outpaced in Phillip Island

The forthcoming Valencia MotoGP test can’t come soon enough for Valentino Rossi after his penultimate appearance for Ducati in Australia yesterday proved to be another humbling experience. The Italian will be back on a factory Yamaha YZR-M1 at the Valencia test where he will begin the journey of trying to prove that at 33 he is still fast enough to fight...

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bartman1988

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bartman1988 says:

bultoboy yamaha won 9 races from 99 -03 with every1 stating you can only win on a honda rossi moved to yam and won 9races in his first season (research done)imay be wrong here but has rossi won more races since leaving honda than honda have won.ducati have spent millions but built crap.as i said a rider can only explain the issues with a bike it is down to the designers and engineers(whos job it is to build a race bike)to improve the bike.yes rossi should of done better on the bike but ducati have done an awful job and have been doing so ever since stoner won the title

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carcleanerboy

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valencia test

will show alot for next year......

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Bart...

"yamaha had severe problems when rossi joined he told them what was wrong and they sorted the bike"

I'm not sure that's the research he meant... he broke his own lap record on the 1st day of his 1st test in 2004 on the Yamaha... that's a bit too quick for him to be claiming to single handedly engineer the perfect bike... it require a couple of hours of input... he was given a great bike which he rode brilliantly to victory.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

H5

The Yamaha was generally considered to be under-par before Rossi jumped on it, Yamaha had not won the Championship since Rainey in 1992.  Consider the fact that maybe at the age 25 he did a Stoner and just rode the tits off it. Will be interesting to see if at the age of 33 and two years in the doldrums he can still hack it with the youngsters.   Won't be long before we know.

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bartman1988

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bartman1988 says:

hedge what im saying is on a bike that wasnt a contender he with a team of ppl managed to tune it from as he described it a midfield bike and they as a whole turned it into a great bike.he and yamaha worked together from the outside it seems ducati want to do it there way for as long as possible

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Nostrodamus says:

Won't be long until we know Saturn?

We already bloody well know. These past two years have displayed in crystal clear clarity the limitations of Rossi's riding. At 33 years old he is at his peak. He's fit, has a world of experience yet the youngsters have upped the game and moved the goal posts beyond him. It really is that simple. Blaming the Desmocedici is a big fat red herring.

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Hedgehog5

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Hedgehog5 says:

Saturn/Bart...

"The Yamaha was generally considered to be under-par before Rossi jumped on it,..."

I know... I agreed... but he jumped on an entirely sorted bike at his 1st test in 2004 & beat his own lap record that 1st day... it hadn't been a contender but by the time Rossi got on it it was. Some of that was down to them spending a lot of money developing over the winter & some was down to Rossi's riding skill... but it most certainly wasn't developed by him... we know he actually can't do that... he can't turn a crap bike into a good'un in 2 years let alone a few hours & we know he won't do what it takes to ride a crap bike to regular podiums & wins.

He's moving back onto a well sorted bike in a few weeks... let's see if he can repeat it.

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carcleanerboy

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So Nostro

If the ducati is a big red herring, explain Stoners  piss poor Performance (by his abilities) in 09 and 010?

The Ducati had gone backwards for years, Stoners 10 wins in 2011 and Rossi's huge down turn in results IMO show that.

Its a brave man who is so convinced a 9 time champion cant rise again when given a decent bike, there lose of Stoner, and not enough competitive machinery to give the others a chance. Pure maths say he will podium regularly.

Even stoner with youth on his side couldnt make the Ducati work properly often enough to win another championship. The might of the Japanese just keep pulling further ahead,

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carcleanerboy

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Hedgy

But is that true for every bike, thats the whole point of the Ducati/Rossi argument.

The designers are at fault not the rider, and the same goes for the question ive just posed Nostro.

A rider of Stoners qualites should have won more titles than he did. His ability to perform of a flawed bike hid its faults buts wasnt enough to win titles or make Ducati see they were barking up the wrong tree.

His three wins nearly the end of 010 were down to his ability and dispite of the Ducati.

 

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ow01fogno1

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ow01fogno1 says:

rossi vs stoner again!!

no argument with ducati results, past titles dont count when you have had 2 years to sort the ride out with no win i may add,stoner did the better job out of the 2 and the world title not just a race win(s) prove it, rossi on the yamaha is proven to be a working package but will he take it to jorge and dani??time will tell.

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