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Richnotrich

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Richnotrich says:

Cars braking when you are about to pass them

I've noticed this a lot recently on single carriageway roads.

When I've seen an overtaking opportunity I pull a bit closer to (but not tailgating) the car in front ready to pull out to overtake.

Just as I'm about to pull out, the car brakes, immediately cutting the distance between me and it, meaning that I either have to commit to the pass a split second earlier than I intend, or abandon it.

Its as if they panic and slam on or they think they are helping. Either way, I wish they wouldn't do it.

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smoto5

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smoto5 says:

Yeah, I've had that kind of thing

happen to me a fair bit, sometimes they've even pulled tight on to the edge of the road too, like they think I need more room, but they only succeed in throwing dust and muck up in the air :upset: Probably best not to close the gap up before  overtaking though for those and other reasons, in fact many advanced riding articles and books talk about dropping back slightly to give plenty of vision and a smooth curve out and around the vehicle, after all we got better acceleration than most cars on the road.

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jaffa90

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jaffa90 says:

braking

It`s a common problem also your wondering if they have seen something in front that you haven`t. (tossers)

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Richnotrich

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Richnotrich says:

I'm talking about overtaking from a following position

ie when there are other hazards, such as vehicles coming the other way or obscured views.

This requires a 3 stage approach. The first being to move closer into what they call the "overtaking position" in the Police Roadcraft handbook.

Obviously when there are no additional hazards, it isn't necessary to move up to this position as you have already pulled out way before.

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jaffa90

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jaffa90 says:

Quick

overtake,them days have gone,there`s only one loser if owt silly happens.  

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Blader2005

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Blader2005 says:

rich...

as you say, its when there are additional hazards such as oncoming vehicles... a lot of car drivers dont appreciate the acceleration/ time required to perform an overake on a bike, hence when they pre-empt you behind them going for an overtake, they relate to a car doing that move, and brake so as to keep the gap open for as long as possible. when we know in reality, there is no need for them to do this, same with the moving to the left thing..... 

rather that looking at it as them trying to throw you off... i look at it that it is in a way their attempt to acknowledge you are there, and its the 'boxers' way of trying to show a little courtesy... (even if it isnt needed)  ;)  

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Amateurcynic

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Amateurcynic says:

Scotland

Seems to be the most prolific in this practice. Approach a slower vehicle, set yourself up to overtake then... The twat brakes in some mistaken idea they're helping when in actual fact you now have to recalculate the whole thing due to the car now effectively Reversing toward you!

What the cage should be doing is...  Nothing! That way you can concentrate on the other hazards present, by changing speed/position you increase the factors that need to be considered. Most I ever do is move slightly to the left if there's enough room between me & the gutter not to start chucking up crap.
Have the same view for those twits who indicate right while in the l/h lane of a roundabout because they're going straight ahead, utterly devoid of anything resembling Forward Planning.
Happy Riding out there :smile

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spondonste

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spondonste says:

Car drivers paying attention for bikes - whatever next??

I've not noticed this problem myself but I don't get overtly close to the vehicle in front before ovetaking them. If they move over for me then I give them a nod as I go past.

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philehidiot

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philehidiot says:

This

is something I really disagree with when it comes to advanced riding. They say to get into the "over taking position" which basically means right up their arse to the off side. If anything goes wrong at this point you're screwed.


A bike has the power to lay back and, even if they don't see you it doesn't matter as you've made sure it's safe to go.

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preunit

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preunit says:

Aye

Stay back, see more, an overtake's only a twist of the throttle away. 

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AdieR

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AdieR says:

Bigger headache

is the twats who take offence to being overtaken and (almost literally sometimes) are killing themselves to get back in front...

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