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Matthew Birt  says:

Minimum weight limit being considered for Moto2

A minimum weight limit for the Moto2 world championship is currently under discussion in a move that could significantly reduce the disadvantage heavier riders like British star Scott Redding currently have to contend with. The entire Moto2 field were individually weighed in full riding kit including helmet during last weekend’s Australian Grand Prix at Phillip Island. It was seen as the first...

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

ChickenFeed

Is that the best you can do ? Poor effort old chap - answer the Rev's question.

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cornbowl says:

BCB newsflash

Does reducing your frontal area, i.e. just hiding your profile, and all your little pic's of your fantasy posters on here, that you jerk off to, increase your credibility, it's just gone down 90%. I'm sorry if you feel rejected sunshine, when you tried to sneak your mush onto my profile, but get over it. 

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cornbowl

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cornbowl says:

Saturn392

Well pardon me all over the place, you must be an expert then on dairy farming. So if you joined MCN 2003, that would make you 16 years old now then would it. You're only just old enough to be a milkmaid, and don't try and teach your granny to suck eggs.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Chicken

I've been reading back over the posts and I see that you are described as  'right tit' a 'left tit' and an 'arse' which is it ?   Or are you all three

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supermario

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supermario says:

Saturn, perhaps you should ask corny

to assign himself a percentage to each of these descriptions

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moto4

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moto4 says:

weight limits

Bad idea. Equalizing weight is unfair: larger riders gain alternatives (strength, low-side saving legs etc) with an equal weight it's all gain. Boxers, jockeys, sumo wrestlers, sprinters/distance runners physique is part of sport & maximising oneself. Should footballers/swimmers/jockeys have to carry lead to allow fatter ones, tall tennis/darts/snooker players stand further away? If so where to stop? Slower runners get a head start? Cyclists- who knows?

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

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With respect moto4, jockeys in handicap races do carry lead to try and equalise the horses performance. There are two distinct aspects to the sport..man & beast.

In moto2, it's man & machine. All the bikes have the same mildly tuned CBR600 engine @120bhp weighing a minimum 140kg, so the power to weight ratio cannot be altered outside of the minimum combined weight proposal.

Marquez is a star but he has a big advantage as we can all see when he hits the straights.

If Scott weighs 227kg with his bike and Marc 210kg, the power to weight ratio measured in bhp per tonne(1000kg) is 528 for Redding and 571 for Marquez. 43 bhp over a tonne but let's say..10bhp over a quarter of that.

10bhp is worth having if you've only got 120.

IMO 120bhp is not enough and the bikes are too close to Supersport 600.  Moto2, the supposed feeder, is barely faster and way slower than Superbike?

Someone needs to build a 750cc Triple with 81mm pistons for Moto2..to follow the regs in the other two classes and make as many parts (pistons, rods, heads) as interchangable as is possible to help costs.

Yamaha are rolling out a new big bang triple..what are the specs?

Surely Triumph could modify their 675..MV too.

160/170bhp ought to do it.  

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vmax4steve

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vmax4steve says:

Moto2 is supposed to be a feeder class, equal machinery alledgedly showing who the best rider is. Scott is certainly at a distinct disadvantage due to his height and weight, what he gains over Marquez through intense braking and cornering he immediately loses on the next straight, he's on a hiding to nothing and has to throw his bike around at 100% for the whole race with absolutely no time to tag on to someone and assess the situation, decide tactics and use his racecraft. It's balls out all the time whereas Marquez can tag along and decide where he's stronger and where to make his move and decide when to go for it.

The analogy given with horse racing is interesting though. Rather than add weight to the bike weight can be added to the rider, in the form of lead shot sewn in to the leathers with sufficient padding and protection over/under it so that it doesn't become an issue in a crash. This would make the smaller riders both heavier and 'bigger' although of course not taller, but still you can't equalise everything.

A few grammes here and there distributed over the suit shouldn't be an issue with the riders, actually they themselves could dictate where they want it, where it would be the most comfortable. Riders could be weighed before each meeting and the appropriate weight set for each. It's really quite an easy rule to implement.

Of course it doesn't need to be absolutely equal, Dorna could set a certain parameter say of ten kilos between the heaviest and lightest rider so that someone like Marquez only has to carry twenty kilos rather than thirty, and if it makes him fatigued then all he has to do is get in the gym and bulk up to decrease the weight he has to carry and gain more strength.

It's an idea that I know will be slaughtered by some on this forum but what the hell I'll put it out there anyway. Let's hear your ideas against.

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eddl

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eddl says:

Im liking the 750cc idea, sounds the way to go

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BlackCountryBullock

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Redding ...

... is just too large for this class of racing and this will be his 4th year of Moto2.

Perhaps he would of been better off going after the Ducati test rider job for a season - he'd have got lots of experience on a MotoGP bike with none of the pressure, maybe some wild-card rides and the chance to stand-in when needed. 

The experience of working with a factory team may of proved to be more beneficial than yet another year in this junior class. 

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