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Matthew Birt  says:

Ryuichi Kiyonari in line for shock MotoGP deal in 2013

Triple British Superbike champion Ryuichi Kiyonari could be make a shock switch to MotoGP in 2013 to spearhead development of Honda’s new RC213V 1000cc production racer. HRC plans to sell production versions of its factory RC213V prototype machine in 2014 at a price of around £800,000 in a bid to offer an affordable and competitive alternative to the current CRT machines. It...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Great news from HRC

Where would GP be without Honda? The only manufacturer in modern times to think of the sport and offer production racers for sale at MotoGP level.

Let it happen!

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MissStiggy

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MissStiggy says:

Honda's attitude to the sport ...

... is simply: 'sell, sell, sell and to hell with the racing' - it's typified by Nakamoto's response to this question:

Question: "Do you understand why spectators and journalists say that MotoGP is not as exciting as premier class racing was before?"
 
Nakamoto: "I don't know. Sorry, I am not interested in this."

Honda (via the MSMA) have almost single handedly ruined MotoGP, and now think it's a good thing to bleed it dry by flogging a few dozen proddy bikes at 800,000 Euros a throw.

Carmelo might have other ideas.

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Wato45

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Wato45 says:

It was Honda pushed for 800s which was pretty much the first nail in the coffin of moto gp.

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wallymann

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wallymann says:

maybe Kenny Roberts should get the boys back together

for another run at the top, using one of these production hondas?  they already used the honda engine in the KR211.

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carcleanerboy

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Benny

Thanks for the link, it was an interesting read, and Miss stiggy  nice!!

It highlights how little interest Honda actually have in being part of a competitive races series, as long has their bikes are the best and the rules suit them, they couldnt give two shits.

I found the part on the tyres most interesting though. Maybe with a specific tyre made just for it the Ducati may be competitive. Bulto touched on something on another thread about allowing all brands of tyres back in ,and he/they may have a point. No over night specials though.

Its somewhere to start with anyway.

We dont want the Premier clas of racing to become a one makes series , so Carmelo does right standing up to Honda.

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MissStiggy

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MissStiggy says:

CCB ...

... you are glorious and forever true.

Honda couldn't give a monkeys about sport, racing or anything - other than money.

"It's the red Honda leading from the guy on the second bike - a blue Honda, and then there's a close battle from 3rd to 24th with multi-coloured Honda's coming everywhere in-between, and yet Honda still manage to win the constructors' title - wow!"

Even a prick like Parrish couldn't have said it better.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

CCB. Do you follow this sport?

That's exactly what Rossi got his Uncle Carmelo bars and his Bridgestone pals to do. In the early part of this season they introduced the more flexible construction type 33 tyre for no good reason. The previous type 31 brought no complaints from the riders and was the tyre the factories built their bikes around last year and in pre season testing.


 This new tyre was brought in with next to no testing time available, although tyres were made available for a Ducati test, hmmmm.

 Ironically the tyre that was supposed to help Rossi ending up hindering him in the manner of the HRC machines. In fact all the top guys ending up complaining of chatter. Just as Stoner predicted they would when the 33 was introduced.

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Tripitaka

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Tripitaka says:

I agree

in principle with the previous two posts - but - are not the one make series in BSB  exciting ??? i.e the Triumph Triple challenge.   I'm not saying i'd like to see the premier class go to a one make series but they do haved their value.

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RawDawg

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RawDawg says:

hey geniuses

It isn't Honda's or any other manufacturers job to look out for the sport or the "show" - that's Dorna's job. Like any other manufacturer that is spending a gazillion dollars, their job is to look after their own interest. Do you think they go into it spending all that money saying "Well I hope the other guys beat us so that the fans will see a great show!" or "wouldn't it be so much more fun getting beat by the other guys! Wooho!" lol. Fuck no they don't.

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MissStiggy

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MissStiggy says:

Nostro ...

" ... they introduced the more flexible construction type 33 tyre for no good reason."

Perhaps, if you follow motorcycle motorsport or have more than a 'surface' understanding of it's meaning, then you may realise that the new '33 Spec' tyre was introduced to increase safey.

And indeed, the new tyre has been safer - nice one Carmelo 

Surely Nostro doesn't have a peverse wish to see top-line athletes hurting themselves? 

But then, other than a stroke of gross mis-fortune, how could a cheat/failure like Pedrosa ever become World Champion?

Nostro - Pedrosa - Fail.

 

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